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I'd actually give Roy Jones more chance than Toney right now. Maybe thats why he's really pulled from his fight
Now that really is silly talk.

Toney has never looked like being knocked out before and can take flush shots off of heavyweights. Wlad has been down more against Peter than Toney and it's not as though Toney wasn't being clubbed on the back of the head too.

Roy Jones Jr can't take a clean shot in more fights than not these days and we are suggesting he would do better against Wlad than Toney? No chance. First time Wlad lands big and Jones is in trouble. Toney always has his smarts, Jones never really had them.

Jones has never really proven he can hang at HW IMO, Toney even with a belly has always hung in there and at the start looked really promising.
The only way to beat Wlad is not to be hit off him. Roy was always the master of not being hit. Believe me now if Wlad hits Toney he is gone. Now I know Roy doesn't have the elusiveness he once did but HW's are slower and he might just make it interesting until he was caught up to (which is inevitable by the way). I'm under no illusion that Roy would beat Wlad, he is way way past it, BUT Toney would be a punching bag for Wlad and that is a fact. Roy would at least try and be elusive.
Jones in recent years has lost his legs. He spent half the fight doing nothing on the ropes against Hopkins. As soon as he starts doing that against Wlad then he is screwed. Jones doesn't have smarts, he just keeps his gloves up without throwing anything or even moving his upper body all that much. I see it as being a MUCH easier fight for Wlad. At least with Toney, you know he will be able to get through rounds and take a few punches on the way. It's not as if Wlad is all pressure and throwing a high volume of punches.

I have no idea why you think as soon as Wlad lands that Toney is in queer street. Toney can take a punch off of anyone. The man knows how to box and has all the fundamentals, he is just getting old and slower. Like you regarding Jones, I am under no illusions regarding Toney either. All logic points to him being pretty done, but I still think it would interesting to see Toney go out on his shield.