Years ago i thought anybody who believed in ufos were Loops. Now ive joined the club . There are to many reputable people coming out Thousands of them. Seti and such are anti, the reason being they would lose there 30 million a year grant, for looking for something that is already Here . Simply do you believe the industrial, military, banking cartels. Or Honest scientists, who have nothing to gain, but everything to lose. Who through there lifetime have told the truth.