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With such a talented fighter such as Jones it is mind boggling that he was never a lineal champ! Kind of reminds me of Donaire, an extremely gifted fighter that has yet been a lineal champ.

And most boxing fans and historians just go with the lineal title anyways. I mean when John Ruiz gets to claim he was a HW champ like Ali and Louis, then you know the alphabet titles don't mean shit.

If I'm not mistaken I do believe Donaire is the Bantamweight lineal champion at this moment

I think the last guy who clearly was that was probably the guy who beat Gaby Canizales who beat Sandoval who beat Jeff Chandler who beat Sol;is who beat Lujan who beat Zamora who beat I dunno. Paningo? From Columbia? Maybe Venezuela? I think (could be wrong) he retired.

I think one could argue pretty convincingly that Rafael Marquez did enough to begin a new line, but he never lost and moved up too. So THEN who are we left with? Hawsegawa? I guess the question is do you think he did enough to start a new line. He had big wins over Sahaprom, but Sahaprom had never faced Raffy and I think was the weaker beltholder in terms of competition faced. So I don't think Nonito gets there...YET.

But I think the winner of Nonito the Mares/Agbeko victor is going to have a pretty good claim.

Paningo was from Venezuela. He actually moved up to featherweight. He didn't retire. And yes he was the one who had last the lineal title. But again it depends how one continues the line. Some consider the title to still be vacant. Which is fair enough. Others continued the line when Veerapol Sahaprom stopped Joichiro Tatsuyoshi. Which in turn turned into Hasegawa, Montiel and know Donaire. I actually don't have a problem with that scenario either

Yeah, that seems reasonable too. That's the hardest part about the lineal thingy. When a guy moves up or retires, when does a guy do enough to start a new line.