Bernard is historically greater than Manny or Floyd

[Pavlik]

Ok lest put it this way who has ever moved up from any weightclass to Heavy and would be considered to be a top 10 atg heavweight champion of all time. There as been one and that is Evander Holyfeild so over the course of how long this sport has been around one guy been able to move up Heavy and be a top 10 I think that is why it is harder to move up so many weight classes when you are in higher weights and become great in them.

im fine with that that's why great fighters like rjj, toney, moorer and especially humble warrior holyfied should be up there.

oops i dont mean putting rjj, toney and moorer top ten atg in the heavies though, holyfield yes!