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This is exactly how I feel. He was an excellent fighter in his prime, but I've seen people act like he never lost a round from going pro to the first Tarver fight.

Nunn would be difficult, I'd favour Jones, but you never know. Jones certainly knew what fighters to fight & not to. He always made sure that he never even went near negotiations with Frankie Liles, who reportedly more than had his number in the amateurs & I thought beat him in their box-off. I can really see that one being difficult for him in the pros.

I know the obvious thing that people say is that 'oh that's the amateurs it means nothing in the pros' or that Liles wasn't on the same level as a pro, but who would have thought that Vernon Forrest would decisively beat Shane Mosley twice if they hadn't fought.

Actually it was RJJ who had his number. Roy beat him both times they fought. So even with the Forrest Theory your argument supports RJJ beating Liles. Its that kind of misinformation that gets passed around constantly, and part of the reason why i don't listen to old timers opinions about old era fighters. Because even in modern times with guys still fighting people fuck up the truth, start bullshit rumors or never challenge them.
My god! You're like Roy Jones' chief of propaganda. They fought FOUR times. I've seen two of those fights. Of the two I haven't seen, Liles apparently clearly won one, while Jones closely won another. Some have claimed that was controversial, but having not seen it, he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Of the two that I have seen, the first was a fight in the National Championships. Liles absolutely batters him. He completely dominates him & hurts him badly a couple of times. The other is in the box-off for the 88 Olympics. I personally think that on current scoring criteria or that of the time, Liles deserved the win, but it's not a robbery. Still, from what I saw, I think Liles could have given him real trouble, although I wouldn't back him for the W.

Still, I'd say that's the one guy Roy really should have fought.