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Am he only one who thinks if he comes back he loses again to most og the top guys?

He hasn't beaten an elite fighter in his prime for ages. Beating Fedor is more about his terrible decline imo, like James Toney beating Holyfield.

A younger Hendo was beaten by Rampage, dominated by Anderson Silva and even lost to Jake Shields.

I think Strikeforce is a bit shit compared to the UFC and wouldn't expect anyone from that organisation to transition well.


Hendo is a great fighter, but I think the BIsping, Wanderlei Silva level is as high as he goes in the UFC. I'd pick Rua, Jones, Rashad, Rampage and Machida over him at this time.
Dan's hardly in his prime! I'd say Bisping was in his prime and Franklin was close enough.

Dominated? Did you see that fight? He wasn't dominated he had one of the best rounds anyone has had against Silva then in the second round got stuck in a rear naked choke.

You must be kidding Nick Diaz is one of the best fighters in the world good enought to come straight to the UFC to challenge GSP. Gilbert Melendez who is no.2 ranked at lightweight in MMA. Paul Daley seemed to do pretty well in the UFC. Jake Shields has moved to the UFC and was the first person in i don't know how long to win around against GSP and he beat a top contender in Martin Kampmann. None of these guys make it in the UFC? I could go on with Gegard Mousasi, Overeem (who is cut now but hay) and many more. But you don't think these guys would transition well into the UFC? Your delusional.

Concidering there middleweight and he is fighting at light heavy now thats a crap judgment. He just beat a guy up who was a natural heavyweight. If he rematched Rampage he would get the win as would he against Tito, Rua, Forrest.
Oh and his loss to Rampage was in 07 that being 4 years ago he was hardly young.
Well as Zuffa owns Strikeforce I'm sure you will see him in there again.

But trying to big fighters up by saying 'Hey he won a round against the champ' shows how weak your argument is. I like Hendo, and I do think he's one of the best ever, I just feel he's too old to be a legitimate threat to the top 4 or 5 in his weight class in the UFC. I think he's ahead of guys like Wanderlei, Bisping and Mark Hamill, but behind Rampage, Rashard, Rua, Jones etc as I've said.

As for the other guys you mentioned, Daley got thrown out of the UFC after his weak as piss performance against Koscheck where the only punch he landed came after the fight, Shields was by far the best Strikeforce guy and he beat Hendo.

Overeem wouldn't be top 5 in the UFC. I'd pick Valasquez, Lesnar, Dos Santos and Frank Mir over him. Carwin might be able to take him out too.

I'd even go so far as to say Matt MItrione isn't a million miles away.

The Strikeforce fighters aren't as good as the elite of the division's UFC guys. None of them will cross over and be a UFC champ. You don't have to agree, just my opinion.