Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
Well I think you have to imagine they are for the most part. I myself almost always give rounds to the fighter I feel inflicted more damage, which is sometimes tricky for me being very partial to slick fighters who move a lot. Obviously cuts caused by flush shots are very telling of the quality of punches. If you are suggesting that there be a finite way to factor them into scoring though? It's completely impossible. First off some fighters are just so much more prone to being cut than others, it'd be completely unfair to put a real scoring emphasis on aesthetics like that. Arturo Gatti would've never won a decision in his life. Secondly, you often see cuts caused by glancing blows that are anything but damaging punches otherwise. If it were known to be a scoring criterium regardless of the punches causing cuts you'd have guys trying to thumb each other or use the palm of gloves in the clinch etc.
Nice post.

I NEVER hear Harold Lederman (as one example) talk about cuts in his scoring. Nor anyone else.

Fighters prone to being cut is too damned bad. That's part of my point. I mean it isn't the guy who lands the harder punches who matters, it is the guy who lands the punches the other guy can't handle, right? So why is a weak chin any different from being prone to cuts?

As for the last point, this leading to muggings? Good point!
I don't think you can really compare being prone to cuts with having a bad chin. There are no recovery powers that will aid a fighter who gets busted up, it's all up to his cutman to do what he can. It's not at all uncommon to see a guy with far more visible damage who is still winning the fight. How often is that the case for a guy who is getting rocked more often etc.? There's also the fact that once you are cut it becomes much easier for the opponent to make it worse without actually inflicting more punishment in a given round. If a guy is sliced open in the first he will probably look worse every round thereafter, despite whether his opponent continues to land all that much. If a guy is hurt badly by a punch he has ample chance to recover and erase that defecit.