Mares-Agbeko, What I Saw

[ElTerribleMorales]

damn, i really wanted to see this fight!
but my evil golddigger of a stepmom ruined that for me.
i heard mares fouled like A MOFO! AND MY BOY AGBEKO WAS DISSED AND DONE WRONG!! Hello!!!!! its bad enough his uncle IKE QUARTEY was robbed against de lehoya, but agbeko is to be robbed too?
in the same fashion?

BULLSHIT!!!!!!
im american and i see whats wrong with this!
corruption! a bought and paid for ref!!!!!
how many low blows did mares have??

FUCK DAT!!!!!!!!

i find it funny how you're always the first guy to jump on a fight and call it robbery when it doesn't go your way, i had Mares winning last night and i didn't even score the 2nd KD, he should have had a pint deductions and it probably would have made him well aware of what he was doing or at least make him think twice before pulling off yet another shot, but just as there were obvious low blows there were some that were borderline, Agbeko should protest but don't get it twisted, he should only protest the fight due to the horrible performance by the ref, the judges were more or less spot on with what was given to them, if the ref (as incompetent as he may be) calls a KD the judges are OBLIGATED to score it, and the score cards weren't all that much out of it, if anything the judge that scored the draw is the one who should be criticized, cause that would mean that they had Agbeko winning around 7 of the 12 rounds, which he didn't

[Spicoli]

Low is low. Simple as and its not for us to pretend to imagine what should have hurt, what shifted cups, the size of his piece and what side it swings on etc. Are we being hit in the cup ,let alone the face? The ref was an insult to the sport, the fighters and reality in general. The entire 'he was pulling the head down so consequently I can understand him hacking into your jewels' 5 10 infinity times is a cop out refs fall back on. Pick a team, stop straddling the fence and excusing repetitive illegal tactics. Start docking points either way...but don't run from one to the other waving your finger like some indecisive and panicky lunch counter lady full of empty rhetoric. Guys are professionals and if your in a clinch, your head is down occasionally fight out, shift off but its NOT a free pass to neuter a dude and then be given a free pass for a bs knockdown.

I honestly think the deck was already stacked against Agbeko going in. The whole tone of it basically sounding like a final coronation of Mares by the announce team, what round might he get a ko in?!? wtf! There were subtle shifts once it warmed and as much as Mares deserved to be called on LB I also think it took some focus off how Agbeko switched gears from being rushed early on by Mares to matching and even walking Mares down at times midway. He was more effective than given credit for. You could just see body language as Mares switched to counter a bit and cut had him bothered and was taking more right hands. While not pretty he took some serious inside shots to. The LBs were serious momentum breakers and frankly I dont buy that all were mistakes, give me a break. You either train to foul or you dont train well enough to be a legit legal body puncher, or your just a wide guy with shitty body work technique. Doesn't matter 'why or how' your doing it...your doing it. End of. I think there will be a rematch as there should be. Both deserve it. Mares to come out 'clean' without questions concerning ref, calls and to show he doesn't have to smash balls to get a clear win and Agbeko because he was dealt a stacked deck. This was a quality match between quality fighter in a glory division of old that deserved better.

[IamInuit]

Here is what I saw: One of the worst refereeing hack jobs that I have ever seen. If you are going to fix a fight at least try to make it a tad believable. That was pathetic. Russell Mora now joins guys like Tilleman in the worst ref category. Mares should have been dq'd and I was cheering for him. What a disgrace. If there is any justice they will have to do this again.

[marbleheadmaui]

Low is low. Simple as and its not for us to pretend to imagine what should have hurt, what shifted cups, the size of his piece and what side it swings on etc. Are we being hit in the cup ,let alone the face? The ref was an insult to the sport, the fighters and reality in general. The entire 'he was pulling the head down so consequently I can understand him hacking into your jewels' 5 10 infinity times is a cop out refs fall back on. Pick a team, stop straddling the fence and excusing repetitive illegal tactics. Start docking points either way...but don't run from one to the other waving your finger like some indecisive and panicky lunch counter lady full of empty rhetoric. Guys are professionals and if your in a clinch, your head is down occasionally fight out, shift off but its NOT a free pass to neuter a dude and then be given a free pass for a bs knockdown.

I honestly think the deck was already stacked against Agbeko going in. The whole tone of it basically sounding like a final coronation of Mares by the announce team, what round might he get a ko in?!? wtf! There were subtle shifts once it warmed and as much as Mares deserved to be called on LB I also think it took some focus off how Agbeko switched gears from being rushed early on by Mares to matching and even walking Mares down at times midway. He was more effective than given credit for. You could just see body language as Mares switched to counter a bit and cut had him bothered and was taking more right hands. While not pretty he took some serious inside shots to. The LBs were serious momentum breakers and frankly I dont buy that all were mistakes, give me a break. You either train to foul or you dont train well enough to be a legit legal body puncher, or your just a wide guy with shitty body work technique. Doesn't matter 'why or how' your doing it...your doing it. End of. I think there will be a rematch as there should be. Both deserve it. Mares to come out 'clean' without questions concerning ref, calls and to show he doesn't have to smash balls to get a clear win and Agbeko because he was dealt a stacked deck. This was a quality match between quality fighter in a glory division of old that deserved better.

I think it is really tough to argue with either of the bold. After Mora gently chided Mares about the fourth time I thought to myself "OK, Agbeko is absolutely going to get that knockdown point back." Yet Mora kept chiding him rather than taking points. Not sure I have ever seen anything like that.

On Mares intentionality? I think there are only really two ways to see it. He was doing it intentionally OR he is a truly terrible judge of distance.

I think what we've learned about "whack-whack-whack" is he's a mean little SOB in the tradition of Eusabio Pedroza.