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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    just checked boxrec - he didn't
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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    Just listen to the commentators in that first section. Leonard was expected to score an early KO. That's how big a mismatch it was being broadcast as.

    Close fight. If it happened today there would be a million "robbery" threads. Fact.
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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    Nah. Duran beat him.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    Nope, not even close. Duran bullied him and pushed him around all fight. Leonard just didn't do enough to win. It is Duran's finest moment, he was a clear winner, in fact the scores flatter Leonard. He was beaten before the fight, look at Leonard at the Ref's instructions, he looks unsure, worried and so he should, he was in the ring with a beast and he knew it.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    The only thing i'll add is that for a guy who supposedly fought the wrong fight, he was actually really impressive.
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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    I don't think Leonard was even prime yet when he first met Duran he was still pretty young guy. I find it funny he fights Durans fight and you could make point that he might of won. But when Leonard fought his way Duran went on to quite always loved Leonard he could box and brawl and had steel chin and when the cards were down he would com from behind to win it. Not to many people can match up to his wins and he won all his huge fights pretty much also a pretty hard thing to do with his line up.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    I agree with the original poster. I remember having Leonard up by 1 point.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    The only thing i'll add is that for a guy who supposedly fought the wrong fight, he was actually really impressive.
    He did fight the wrong fight as the second fight proved.

    It was the perception that he was fighting Duran's fight. Agreed it was close.
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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    Leonard made one big mistake and it cost him the fight. He tried to play by Duran's rules in the ring. SR L lost and he lost because he blinked and he was in there with a savvy challenger. I never liked Leonard but he was on the money in their second fight he used the ring like he was supposed to. SR L tried to hustle Duran on his terms if he did what he was supposed to maybe things might have turned out differently but Duran had other plans and no one beats him at his game especially that night in Montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    The only thing i'll add is that for a guy who supposedly fought the wrong fight, he was actually really impressive.
    That night he didn't have a choice. Duran was in kill mode. Leonard had no other option. If he didn't fight that way he would of got run over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    The only thing i'll add is that for a guy who supposedly fought the wrong fight, he was actually really impressive.
    That night he didn't have a choice. Duran was in kill mode. Leonard had no other option. If he didn't fight that way he would of got run over.
    Exactly! Leonard had balls man, he might of conceded his strategy but he hurt Duran at least 3 or 4 times and clearly was up for a proper scrap. Probably his best fight IMO.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    I think you're gonna be alone on this one ICB. I watched an interview with Ray Leonard last night and even he admits he got his ass kicked in that fight (contusions all over his body, pissing blood, ect).

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    For what it's worth, here are the actual judges scores for the 15 round fight: Harry Gibbs 144-145 | judge: Angelo Poletti 147-148 | judge: Raymond Baldeyrou 144-146.

    Duran won by just a point on 2 of the scorecards, and just 2 points on the other, close fight on the cards if you ask me, ICB has a point.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Else Think SRL Beat Roberto Duran In The Brawl In Montreal ?

    I watched it again on the weekend, it's Duran's finest moment alright. Leonard simply didin't do enough. He was out of the fight by round 12, he won some rounds for sure, but at best it's a 10-5 or 9-6 result for Duran. The official scoring was close because i believe Leonard was penciled in to win at all costs, he was the prohibitive favouirte going into the fight, many thought he would knock Duran out! He was more marketable for the future, (as far as i know Duran can't speak english) Judge Angelo Poletti's scorecard has been labelled a monument to indecsision (what was bothering him?) it makes me wonder about No Mas even more now? A rematch arranged so soon? Duran blew up some 40 -50lbs post Montreal fight and Leonard knew it. Duran received $8million for the 2nd fight, what was his care factor now? Why did Duran just quit mid fight with two judges scoring 66-68 and one 66-67? that is a close fight. Has anyone thought of the possibility that Duran just didn't want to go through with the sham in the 2nd fight? Or did he simply have the shits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Nope, not even close. Duran bullied him and pushed him around all fight. Leonard just didn't do enough to win. It is Duran's finest moment, he was a clear winner, in fact the scores flatter Leonard. He was beaten before the fight, look at Leonard at the Ref's instructions, he looks unsure, worried and so he should, he was in the ring with a beast and he knew it.
    It was close come on it wasn't a wide victory, i think people need to score this again. Yes Roberto Duran was the aggressor but SRL countered very effectively. Hurting Roberto Duran a few times and finishing the fight stronger.

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