Fair or Not? Family gets evicted from council home because son was a rioter

[Kev]

Academic studies have put the reason why these East Asian kids to having very low crime rates per their population and managing to get into these universities at high rates in the West are due to their cultural mindset, meaning Confucianism. A cultural mindset that lionizes education and a respect for law and authority. Nothing to do with agriculture or rice growing. And how is this cultural mindset pass down, well through parenting of course. Your buddy Miles who lives in Korea also notices and has even on more than one occasion said that the society there places such a huge emphasis on education and that the country has a very low crime rate. The same also applies to Japan, Singapore, Vietnam, and China. All countries that have a Confucian mindset. It's in the cultural values, and these cultural values are passed down from their parents to their children.

Parenting and cultural values plays a bigger role than any other outside factors. If mob mentality was the sole reason for every riot, then surely the Korean immigrants and other East Asians would also be looting and rioting in record numbers during the Los Angeles riots of 1992? But they didn't. And mind you the Los Angeles area has the largest East Asian population in the West.

The Jews, your favorite group also heavily emphasized education within their households and managed to rise up from the depths of poverty and out of the ghetto at the turn of the 20th century in America by having these cultural values instilled in their children, which was a heavy emphasis on education. So many of their children were in the top universities of America that these universities then implemented legacy admissions so WASP children would get a spot and possibly limiting the numbers of Jews. Hence, why you have so many of them today that have high paying white collar jobs.

Let's be honest, certain groups are able to rise up the socio-economic ladder in western countries and have a low crime rate per their population because of certain values placed inside the home no matter what the socio-economic condition they were in, and these values are passed down and taught from parent to children. Nothing more, nothing less. It all boils down to what happens inside the home.

You are arguing against your point. I agree with you. Cultural values play a huge part, and that is societal, not individual.

Parents passing on cultural values of their society is what we do in this country too.

Unfortunately Western values pretty much suck these days emphasising individual rights above social responsibility. The rioters are displaying the typical mindset of all Westerners these days, 'let's help ourselves', which applies to both ends of the class spectrum, bankers and MP's stealing to benefit themselves just as the working class rioting youth's have done.

It's a cultural thing, as you yourself say, therefore not the fault of individual parents, it's our modern values that shoulder the burden of blame.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

society is made up of individuals.

[Kev]

society is made up of individuals.

So is an ant colony.

[Gandalf]

Interesting points on both sides, it made good reading.

Mind you, different societies also place different emphasis on law and order. When I was in Thailand it was very common to see children as young as 11 on a motorcycle with no helmet and 2 friends on the back of the bike. Out driving tonight I saw the same thing here in Korea, but only one friend on the back. In the UK they would be caught before you know it, but out here, and though illegal, kids can get away with it. My other coworker has a bike and kids are always trying to steal it. They once even stole a wheel, I have no idea why.

The UK child riot thing is very unusual though and I have never seen that in Asian countries. Not as far as I am aware anyway. Of course there are kids in gangs and stuff, but nothing like the UK. This is a country where every kid has a paper knife in his pencil case, there are no mass stabbings or anything like that. Actually Korean kids are very aggressive, but I guess heavy schooling kicks them back down. But obviously there is youth crime, but on the whole you don't fear any street corners unlike certain parts of the UK. Many parts of the UK are beyond miserable, hellish violent places seemingly beyond any law or order.

I know it's not a massive point, but my mums fence has been bashed to pieces by kids who play football outside. There are signs saying 'no ball games'. There is a huge park around the corner. And the cops have been called repeatedly (not by my mum, but old people who remember the days of relative civility). It's always 'we will have a word, but there is nothing more we can do'. They talk to the parents, but they don't give a fuck.

When I was a 'youth' I drunkenly called a policeman a wanker and then spent the night in a cell. It taught me a bloody good lesson. I am not the centre of the world and I cannot get away with anything I want. I haven't repeated that experience. We need to fling some of these into cells and I recall there being no playstation in my nightly stopover.

Make prisons harsher and make these people learn to respect others.

[Scrap]

Ants work together in their domain or get killed.

[AdamGB]

society is made up of individuals.

So is an ant colony.

Do ants ever riot or destroy their own colonies though?

[Ghost]

Just shoot the one's in front in the head and the rest will go home.


And No ant do not destroy their own colonies. Even with over crowding. They just ship a Queen ant out to start a new colony. About like bees

[Kev]

Just shoot the one's in front in the head and the rest will go home.


And No ant do not destroy their own colonies. Even with over crowding. They just ship a Queen ant out to start a new colony. About like bees

Ok, that was an ill informed comment based on no knowledge at all. The single biggest killer of ants, is other ants.

Ant societies are incredibly similar to human's one. They are always engaged in class wars with red ants fighting black ants. Amazon ants in particular are amazing, even engaging in seiges of other nests. They will literally surround a rival nest and starve them out.

Your comment could not be more wrong in fact. Clearly you have never watched Attenborogh.

[Gandalf]

Just shoot the one's in front in the head and the rest will go home.


And No ant do not destroy their own colonies. Even with over crowding. They just ship a Queen ant out to start a new colony. About like bees

Ok, that was an ill informed comment based on no knowledge at all. The single biggest killer of ants, is other ants.

Ant societies are incredibly similar to human's one. They are always engaged in class wars with red ants fighting black ants. Amazon ants in particular are amazing, even engaging in seiges of other nests. They will literally surround a rival nest and starve them out.

Your comment could not be more wrong in fact. Clearly you have never watched Attenborogh.

And you are clearly a Chav. Who?

[Ghost]

Just shoot the one's in front in the head and the rest will go home.


And No ant do not destroy their own colonies. Even with over crowding. They just ship a Queen ant out to start a new colony. About like bees

Ok, that was an ill informed comment based on no knowledge at all. The single biggest killer of ants, is other ants.

Ant societies are incredibly similar to human's one. They are always engaged in class wars with red ants fighting black ants. Amazon ants in particular are amazing, even engaging in seiges of other nests. They will literally surround a rival nest and starve them out.

Your comment could not be more wrong in fact. Clearly you have never watched Attenborogh.

But they do not destroy their own nest. Just other nest.