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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    The dude is a very good prospect/contender at this stage but is far from ready to challenge either Klitschko. I'd like to see him in against someone a little fresher, an Arreola type before I'd really rate him as a threat. But he is one to watch
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    it was worth throwing the towel in wasnt it

    he does look like hes getting better and better, i am starting to be convinced, i had excuses for all his other big wins but maybe he is the real deal
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    He has potential to be a good fighter in the division but right now he has no chance against either Klitschko unless they all of a sudden fade drastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    it was worth throwing the towel in wasnt it

    he does look like hes getting better and better, i am starting to be convinced, i had excuses for all his other big wins but maybe he is the real deal
    ...You mean Liakahovich coming back out of retirement isn't a worthy excuse?

    Helenius is good, but good doesn't cut it vs the Klitschko's. I want to see Helenius battle it out vs a big puncher and THEN he's ready.

    Helenius-Arreola or Helenius-Dimitrenko before he gets a shot at Wlad. I do think he'd beat Povetkin, though that would be a good fight.

    And looking at the title of the thread I thought brockton wrote it.
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Yeah I think a few more fights against the likes of a Grant, Barrett, McCall, Rahman, J C Gomez before even considering such a huge leap towards the K Bros.
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    The dude is a very good prospect/contender at this stage but is far from ready to challenge either Klitschko. I'd like to see him in against someone a little fresher, an Arreola type before I'd really rate him as a threat. But he is one to watch
    I agree. Let's see where he goes from here. He's beat enough top 20 guys, and proved he belongs in the top 10, how about facing a top ten guy now?

    Has he been down? How's his chin?

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    HA!!!

    Helenius has become the flavor of the month already...
    You do realize all he did was beat a former WBO title holder who at his best was average and today is no where near top 5 level.

    Both Wladdy & Vitaly would beat this guy.

    I would even go on record and say Adamek beats Helenius via TKO.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    I don't know Mick, he actually looks very useful compared to most anyone his size barring the Klitschkos. Writing a guy off simply because he is raw and getting hyped isn't much different than being on the other side of the fence and bigging him up. He's a good prospect and I enjoyed watching that fight, he definetly puts his punches together very well for his size.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I don't know Mick, he actually looks very useful compared to most anyone his size barring the Klitschkos. Writing a guy off simply because he is raw and getting hyped isn't much different than being on the other side of the fence and bigging him up. He's a good prospect and I enjoyed watching that fight, he definetly puts his punches together very well for his size.
    I'm not writing him off as a boxer.
    All I'm saying is he would get battered by either Wlad or Vitaly at this point.
    The poster of this thread has him beating up Wlad and having a chance at Vitaly.
    My response to that is HA! when the guy hasn't even been tested.
    He beat Sergei come on...

    I agree he's a good prospect but at this point it's nothing more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    HA!!!

    Helenius has become the flavor of the month already...
    You do realize all he did was beat a former WBO title holder who at his best was average and today is no where near top 5 level.

    Both Wladdy & Vitaly would beat this guy.

    I would even go on record and say Adamek beats Helenius via TKO.
    I agree with everything except the Adamek part. He's not TKOing anyone as a heavyweight.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
    Bingo! That's a huge problem with the division today. It's almost completely void of mid level contenders or quality journeymen, making it really hard to actually have a prospect progress properly. The networks are so starved for new blood that they'll rush anyone who isn't complete garbage into a title fight. You could take all kinds of great HW's and figure that either Klitschko would have beaten them badly at the prospect stage of their careers. I'm not sure Wlad is really a GREAT heavy, but he's not losing to somebody with 15 fights, even if that someone is a lot more talented than Helenius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
    Bingo! That's a huge problem with the division today. It's almost completely void of mid level contenders or quality journeymen, making it really hard to actually have a prospect progress properly. The networks are so starved for new blood that they'll rush anyone who isn't complete garbage into a title fight. You could take all kinds of great HW's and figure that either Klitschko would have beaten them badly at the prospect stage of their careers. I'm not sure Wlad is really a GREAT heavy, but he's not losing to somebody with 15 fights, even if that someone is a lot more talented than Helenius.
    Well that AND all the prospects in the division are treated with kid gloves for so damn long that they forget what its like to be in an actual fight! Has Helenius REALLY been tested? Povetkin tested himself vs Chambers lo' those many years ago, that wasn't a great fight but it was undefeated prospect vs undefeated prospect and that made it important. Helenius needs experience fights, has he ever gassed out? Has he ever gotten off the canvas to win? Has he dealt with ANY adversity If not then all the easier for Wlad.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    dudes, are u serious?
    Helenius would destroy arreola.
    look up a few of Helenius KO's on youtube!
    arreola would get beat worse than liakhovich.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    HA!!!

    Helenius has become the flavor of the month already...
    You do realize all he did was beat a former WBO title holder who at his best was average and today is no where near top 5 level.

    Both Wladdy & Vitaly would beat this guy.

    I would even go on record and say Adamek beats Helenius via TKO.
    I agree with everything except the Adamek part. He's not TKOing anyone as a heavyweight.
    I know I kind of wanted to go along the lines of this thread and post something a bit radical.


    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.


    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    dudes, are u serious?
    Helenius would destroy arreola.
    look up a few of Helenius KO's on youtube!
    arreola would get beat worse than liakhovich.
    I don't need to look up youtube videos.
    I've seen his last 6 fights complete.
    He's beaten former champs which is good.
    But until he starts fighting top 10 contenders we really don't know.

    I'd like to see him vs. Arreola, Haye or even Dimetrenko to see how he can handle a top contender...

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