PAC will be PAC because although the juice gives you size and strength, it doesn't mean a thing because it is still the performance of the man beneath all that hype. There are many bodybuilders on the juice but only one gets first place. The juice does not guarantee a win. You'll look better sometimes but looking good and actually fighting good have nothing to do with each other, once again it's the man inside the muscle not the one that is a wanna be and never could be or never was.