Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight

[Spicoli]

Russell needs more ESPN shows...or a recorded sparring session. But he ain't ready for this much HBO grooming and pillow biting on his stuff.

Looked like his arms were heavy at the end there. Nowhere near ready big exposure

Your right. He really seemed to just be watching the clock. I'm not sure if I blame the network more. Really.

[LukeH]

Max is all over russels nuts, he's honestly not all that impressive. Hitting a lot of air with those punches, reminds me of devon alexander in that sense, garcia would take him out. Dude in front of him took the fight on short notice, relatively slow and still taggin him here n there, meh I guess they're gonna shove him down our throats one way or the other.

I think he';s got alot of potential... hes clearly got thing to work on thought.

Needs to realize he's not got great power, so just standing in the pocket isn't going to work for him stepping up. If he starts moving more and utilizing his speed I think he'd look alot more impressive.

Oh no question he's got potential and obviously he's young and has plenty of room for improvement, I just hate how hbo jumps on a decent prospects nuts like he's the next coming of robinson. He's a good prospect but just now they threw out the words "elite level skill" fuck of max.

I've not had HBO on so I didnt hear that, pretty stupid, a top prospect is what he is nothing more. Theres too much pressure for them to step up too soon, everyone looking for the next superstar without giving them time to develop.

[Mars_ax]

My take on the main:

Zaveck has a 20% chance of winning a decision.

Zaveck has a 60% chance of getting fucked on the scorecards.

There's a !00% chance that HBO will be all over Berto's nuts.

And an 80% chance that Berto will win an unpopular decision.

[CFH]

Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?

[armin]

Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?

I do feel it was closer a win for hop than the first meeting would have been without the kds.

[CFH]

Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?

I do feel it was closer a win for hop than the first meeting would have been without the kds.

I watched it after I knew the results and had listened to everyone heap praise on Hopkins, so I expected it to be a lot less competitive. I believe I actually had Pascal winning by a point or two when I scored it.

[CFH]

Anyone know the over/under on how many times Mayweather drops Ortiz with a counter punch?

I'm going to guess he gets dropped twice.

[armin]

Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?

I do feel it was closer a win for hop than the first meeting would have been without the kds.

I watched it after I knew the results and had listened to everyone heap praise on Hopkins, so I expected it to be a lot less competitive. I believe I actually had Pascal winning by a point or two when I scored it.

Didn't have it that close, hop still won for me but it was a close fight. I felt in the first fight tho hop basically schooled pascal and the kds and some homecooked judging cost him a win.

[CFH]

Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?

I do feel it was closer a win for hop than the first meeting would have been without the kds.

I watched it after I knew the results and had listened to everyone heap praise on Hopkins, so I expected it to be a lot less competitive. I believe I actually had Pascal winning by a point or two when I scored it.

Didn't have it that close, hop still won for me but it was a close fight. I felt in the first fight tho hop basically schooled pascal and the kds and some homecooked judging cost him a win.

I definitely thought Hopkins deserved to win the first fight.

[LukeH]

Anyone know the over/under on how many times Mayweather drops Ortiz with a counter punch?

I'm going to guess he gets dropped twice.

One counter right. Maybe a body shot.

I read that horribly, my bad.

[Mars_ax]

Zaveck has some fans who showed up, come on dude, give Berto his 2nd loss.

[armin]

don't know jack about zaveck but here is to hopin he comes to fight like zbik did a few months ago, and not just here to be a lamb.

[Mars_ax]

Anyone know the over/under on how many times Mayweather drops Ortiz with a counter punch?

I'm going to guess he gets dropped twice.

Hmmm, i'll say zero times, Mayweather isn't that big of a power puncher.

[CFH]

We're going to see Berto - Ortiz II. Gauranteed.

[armin]

And just decided I'm rooting for zaveck since he's from a former yugoslav country like myself haha.