Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight

[CFH]

There were a lot of headbutts there.

[Galaxy]

Disappointing end to what was shaping up as a good fight

[LukeH]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

[captainanddew]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I think either Cotto or Margarito of 2008 would have beaten Berto. Mosley of a few years ago. PW at 147.
Berto just happens to be getting alot of credit as 147 isn't as strong as it was a few years ago.

[Kev]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I dont think anybody thinks Berto is as good as Manny or Floyd but clearly he's amongst that elite group of fighters good enough to be considered an opponent for them.

He's absolutely one of the best fighters from 140-154 and therefore right in the mix for a fight with either,

It's just hating to suggest otherwise.

[LukeH]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I dont think anybody thinks Berto is as good as Manny or Floyd but clearly he's amongst that elite group of fighters good enough to be considered an opponent for them.

He's absolutely one of the best fighters from 140-154 and therefore right in the mix for a fight with either,

It's just hating to suggest otherwise.

I just said exactly what they said... he's on the level of those two.... which he isn't.

I didn't say he shouldn't be in the mix to fight either of them, I didn't really have a problem with him having a title shot tonight. Although it does IMO at least show the gulf in class between Floyd and Pac, and the rest of the division.

[Kev]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I dont think anybody thinks Berto is as good as Manny or Floyd but clearly he's amongst that elite group of fighters good enough to be considered an opponent for them.

He's absolutely one of the best fighters from 140-154 and therefore right in the mix for a fight with either,

It's just hating to suggest otherwise.

I just said exactly what they said... he's on the level of those two.... which he isn't.

I didn't say he shouldn't be in the mix to fight either of them, I didn't really have a problem with him having a title shot tonight. Although it does IMO at least show the gulf in class between Floyd and Pac, and the rest of the division.

I agree I give him virtually no chance against Floyd, and a punchers chance early against Manny at best.

There was nothing wrong with him getting a title shot right away though, imo it was necessary for boxing to maintain credibility, He defended his title 5 times and is clearly the best fighter in the weight class after Manny and Ortiz (and Floyd when he returns).

To have made him wait and earn a shot at Zavek's title behind some other lesser guy would have been farcical. I think he proved that point in his victory tonight.

[LukeH]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I dont think anybody thinks Berto is as good as Manny or Floyd but clearly he's amongst that elite group of fighters good enough to be considered an opponent for them.

He's absolutely one of the best fighters from 140-154 and therefore right in the mix for a fight with either,

It's just hating to suggest otherwise.

I just said exactly what they said... he's on the level of those two.... which he isn't.

I didn't say he shouldn't be in the mix to fight either of them, I didn't really have a problem with him having a title shot tonight. Although it does IMO at least show the gulf in class between Floyd and Pac, and the rest of the division.

I agree I give him virtually no chance against Floyd, and a punchers chance early against Manny at best.

There was nothing wrong with him getting a title shot right away though, imo it was necessary for boxing to maintain credibility, He defended his title 5 times and is clearly the best fighter in the weight class after Manny and Ortiz (and Floyd when he returns).

To have made him wait and earn a shot at Zavek's title behind some other lesser guy would have been farcical. I think he proved that point in his victory tonight.

I understand it... Somtimes theres an automatic rematch in the contract... somtimes there isn't but they will still be granted one,I dont see the difference between that and a title shot at a different title tbh, especially as there isn't as many name fighters as there were a few years ago. Even though he's ended up losing Zaveck is probably happier he took this fight than say.. well anyone else who was available.

[Kev]

Great fight, shame about the eye as it was really warming up.

Glad Berto has a belt again. I can't wait to see guys like Bradley and Khan move up and fight him, he's going to be dangerous, although he's still far too easy to hit. Crowd friendly though.

First time seeing Zavek. Really liked him, hope he bounces back and will look forward to seeing him again.

Not sure why Berto gets so much hate though.

[ruthless rocco]

i like it when fights are won based on punches not headbutts, doctors intervening or by people being paid to lose.(not saying this fight was fixed). terribly disappointed.