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    I have no interest in politics as in England the majority of politicians are upper class arseholes bang out of touch with the common man. Look at the expenses scandal on top of their ridiculously high wages and benefits and tell me they aren't all selfish greedy bastards lining their own pockets while the country goes down the shitter. I have never voted and i never will, whoever is in power it's all money, money, money it's a reason i will be leaving the army in 12 months as i refuse to risk my life for a government who continually lie and shit all over the true hard workers of the nation, the people who graft long hours day in day out just to provide a stable life for their family while not being able to afford certain luxuries that many underserving have become accustomed to.

    To be honest i don't see Obama being crucified in the media over here but that might be because i am reading the wrong papers or i'm completely blind to it.

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    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
    Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
    Your opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
    Your opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal.
    So you did...my apologies but if fiscal responsibility, freedom, liberty and the Constitution are "radical" then the entire nation needs more of it.
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