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    It is an appalling first post. Vitali Klistschko is an exceptional fighter. He doesn't lose rounds and the only way to beat him is to get lucky with an injury or a cut and that is bound to happen with the big men occasionally. Vitali has destroyed pretty much everyone. He was beating byrd decisively at the point of stoppage and was beating Lewis too.

    He is a quality fighter and it is easy to criticise and say what he does wrong, but perhaps his flaws are also some of his strengths. It is isn't as easy to fight him as it seems from an armchair. Every opponent finds that out. Haye would get a pound down. Savagely.
    I agree with Miles. The reason most experts believe Vitali is one of most difficult to beat fighter ever is simply because he is.

    Anyone who thinks Joe luis, Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey could have beaten up Vitali and Wlad is a moron imo. Yes their size is a huge asset, but it's size combined with meticulous training, always being in perfect condition, discipline and the mastery of a perfect fighting style to match their physcial attributes.

    They would rise to the top in any era. They may not be risk takers, and so prefer to break down their opponents slowly and methodically but they are still exceptionally difficult to beat.

    How many fighters have lost less rounds in their entire career than Vitali Klitschko?

    He's probably lost less rounds in his career than any other fighter of the last 30 years, maybe ever. If you disagree challenge me on it and name somebody.
    Add to that the fact that Vitali has the highest ko rating in the history of the HW division. That should speak volume by itself, you can't be talentless and ko around 97% of your opponents, something must be done correctly in there.
    And he's over 40. Most are done by their early 30's or at best mid 30's. He's quality.
    He's by far one of the very best in my opinion. Unexciting, perhaps, but exciting is not a compulsory component of a great boxer.
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    I don't get the hate for vitali, and callin him average is just garbage I think. Call him borring, but remember when he had a willing opponent they gave us arguably the last great heavyweight title fight. Call him mediocre due to less than stellar competition, well he's not losing a single round to these guys, leads me to believe he could easily compete and beat better competition. His workrate is insane for a guy as big as him, his defense deceptively good, and a iron chin all lead me to believe he could compete with any heavy in history, but nah he's just trash...

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    Haye and Adamek put the lie to those posters who keep calling the HW division weak. They are good fighters and would have had a fair chance fighting any of the boys in the "Golden Age" of boxing. But against the Klits they don't have the ghost of a chance. The question is, has there ever been, or will there ever be, a fighter that the Klits couldn't handle?

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    Why is comparing Vitali to Foreman so bad lets take a good look at Georges career. He lost to a old Ali and was fucking rope a doped not to many fighters have been that stupid. Then in his prime he fucking loses to a so so fighter in Young. What the fuck would George do to Vitali because going for the ko was a prime Foremans thing but Vitali has the best chin in history damn near so eh i don't know would be good. Now i know we favor old fighters but sometimes i think we get to carried away i do it with Leonard and Holyfeild all the time though.

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    Now i am not saying Foreman was not a great heavy because he was but i can not stand the hate the brothers get its just stupid and to hate Vitali who is the more exciting one is even worse i do not get it.

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