sad state of boxing

**piye** · 09-13-2011 11:56 AM

Vit and WLad are better than everyone fighting now' they are not ATG fighters and lose to most ATG fighters.

They don't win just because they are big Dimentriko, Valuev and Tyson Fury are all big and I don't see any of them having the same success as the Klits they win because they are better than everyone fighting at the moment.

But the fact that this is a weak division is beyond doubt! Haye although he lost clearly won three rounds against Wlad and was able to hurt him in the last round. Haye is a good cruiserweight and average heavyweight in all time terms he's 6'3 and fast with a poor chin, Replace him with Ali, foreman or other greats and see what happens 9 times out of ten they stop Wlad whois the better brother.

**Mr140** · 09-13-2011 12:15 PM

Piye quick question how do you place Tyson then because he was in a weak division when he was king and never beat a atg heavyweight in prime. I mean how think he do in atg match ups because his reign was not as long as brothers and he lost almost every time he step in ring with a great. So does that mean he loses to most atg then just like the bothers did or does he some how get a pass. I mean Wald has a bad chin but Vitali can box well use distance well and has one of the best chins to ever be in heavyweight division.

**piye** · 09-13-2011 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mr140

Piye quick question how do you place Tyson then because he was in a weak division when he was king and never beat a atg heavyweight in prime. I mean how think he do in atg match ups because his reign was not as long as brothers and he lost almost every time he step in ring with a great. So does that mean he loses to most atg then just like the bothers did or does he some how get a pass. I mean Wald has a bad chin but Vitali can box well use distance well and has one of the best chins to ever be in heavyweight division.

Good question the Larry Holmes on Tyson's resume is better than anybody on either Klit's resume actually I'd still pick that Larry Holmes over the Klits the fact that after this fight he took a prime Holyfield 12 and beat a prime Ray Mercer shows he was a good fighter So He beat a good ATG in Larry Holmes he also beat good fighters like Bruno, Tubbs, Tucker, Ruddock, Berbick and Golota to be honest his resume far exceeds that of the brothers even when combined.

The brothers best wins are Haye, Mercer and Sam Peter which really highlights just how poor their competition is even compared to Tysons.