sad state of boxing

[Mr140]

Well andre to add to fighters not being as tough. I would have to say Evander Holyfeild is about the toughest most mental and determined man i have ever seen there was no fear in that man.

[Dave Hughey]

Well andre to add to fighters not being as tough. I would have to say Evander Holyfeild is about the toughest most mental and determined man i have ever seen there was no fear in that man.

Yes, and I think Tomasz Adamek would have been called "tough" in any era. I'll bet he could have hung with (and perhaps dominated) a lot of the "tough" old timers.

I am really enjoying the way this discussion has gone. Sure beats the average post that today's heavyweights "are shite" LOL. It's a lot more complex than that, that's for sure.

Also, if you look at the Lewis=Klitschko fight, Vitali showed more than a little bit of heart still wanting to fight with his face split open.

[Dave Hughey]

Another thing. Today's boxers are smarter. The most obvious example: Take a look at Jess Willard and Max Schmelling getting up again and again when they could have taken a 9 count. Stupid. You wouldn't see that today even without the mandatory 8 count.

I hate to see today's boxers maligned. Or boxers of any era for that matter. How many of us have ever had to get up off the floor and fight on? Or fight on breathing through our mouth because our nose was broken, swallowing blood with every breath? It's a tough sport.

[Andre]

Another thing. Today's boxers are smarter. The most obvious example: Take a look at Jess Willard and Max Schmelling getting up again and again when they could have taken a 9 count. Stupid. You wouldn't see that today even without the mandatory 8 count.

I hate to see today's boxers maligned. Or boxers of any era for that matter. How many of us have ever had to get up off the floor and fight on? Or fight on breathing through our mouth because our nose was broken, swallowing blood with every breath? It's a tough sport.

Thats true too, better nourishment, smarter under pressure.

[Andre]

Well andre to add to fighters not being as tough. I would have to say Evander Holyfeild is about the toughest most mental and determined man i have ever seen there was no fear in that man.

Yeah legend, he has spanned two eras.