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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If Mayweather does invite Ortiz Sr, and that piece of shit turns up then I will be rooting for Victor to annihilate Floyd and toss his worthless hide out of the ring and into his pathetic excuse of a father's lap.

    I really doubt Floyd would do that, it would be beyond crass imo, the equivalent of a boss inviting the childhood abuser of a female member of staff he didn't like to the work's Christmas party.

    I really hope this doesn't happen
    Thats frowned upon ?
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    Full perspective and skins on the wall...If Mayweather has to effort or make it a point to get into Ortizs head...round 1 goes to Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Full perspective and skins on the wall...If Mayweather has to effort or make it a point to get into Ortizs head...round 1 goes to Victor.
    That is exactly how Victor needs to think about it all.
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    The public got into Ortiz head. The promotion!!! They all saying, "Ortiz made every fighter he faced taste the canvas". If he come into the fight with the one game plan. And that's to KO Mayweather, we are going to see the same thing that happen to Hatton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    The public got into Ortiz head. The promotion!!! They all saying, "Ortiz made every fighter he faced taste the canvas". If he come into the fight with the one game plan. And that's to KO Mayweather, we are going to see the same thing that happen to Hatton.
    Probably but he cannot outbox Mayweather. His only chance is to go for his shots and try to damage his man like Mosley did in round 2. Mosley was just far too old to follow up effectively.Ortiz won't be blowing through his arse. But his only chance really is to pressure and land hard.

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    And Hatton for me put up the best recent showing we have seen against Floyd. For the first 6 he was totally in the fight and it was only that screwed up docked point that started to to really mess it up for him. Then of course it became unstuck, but it was Hatton losing his cool more than Mayweather making any real adjustments. Hatton just gave him more chances.

    To beat Mayweather you have to pressure him and try to crowd him. Hatton and Castillo are the blueprints IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    And Hatton for me put up the best recent showing we have seen against Floyd. For the first 6 he was totally in the fight and it was only that screwed up docked point that started to to really mess it up for him. Then of course it became unstuck, but it was Hatton losing his cool more than Mayweather making any real adjustments. Hatton just gave him more chances.

    To beat Mayweather you have to pressure him and try to crowd him. Hatton and Castillo are the blueprints IMO.
    I kind of agree with you. But the pressure have to be more like bullying Mayweather to the ropes. If he crowd Mayweather in the center of the ring and not take away one of Mayweather hands or his countering ability, it's not going to work. He needs to smother PBF so much that he can't throw his left and only able to throw his right across his body. We all know that PBF is going to tuck his chin behind his shoulder and give his opponent his left side. Problem is, Ortiz square himself up when throwing power shot when his opponents are against the ropes.

    Interesting point . . .
    You saying it and I just read Ortiz's trainer saying it. Floyd don't make any real adjustments. INTERESTING. I got to go back in the acheives. I think he do, do settle adjustments but not many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    And Hatton for me put up the best recent showing we have seen against Floyd. For the first 6 he was totally in the fight and it was only that screwed up docked point that started to to really mess it up for him. Then of course it became unstuck, but it was Hatton losing his cool more than Mayweather making any real adjustments. Hatton just gave him more chances.

    To beat Mayweather you have to pressure him and try to crowd him. Hatton and Castillo are the blueprints IMO.



    Yes! good post i agree. Years before Hatton faced PBF me and a mate came to the same conclusion as you. PRESSURE and lots of it is the way to beat Mayweather. But it has to be applied right. Castillo did so well and we used to say that Hattons swarming pressure could trouble mayweather and it did as you say and yes the point deduction was the turning point in the fight and Hatton unravelled right there and then. I think he felt as though he was fighting 2 blokes that night.

    Excited to see how Ortiz can apply the pressure tomorrow night. Plenty of head movement wouldn't go amiss neither

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Full perspective and skins on the wall...If Mayweather has to effort or make it a point to get into Ortizs head...round 1 goes to Victor.
    That is exactly how Victor needs to think about it all.
    True.

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