Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?

[J_C]

I just saw a replay of the whole thing actually. Cortez does say either 'Lets Go' or 'Box On'. So Ortiz just fucked up. Mayweather did a bit of a bitch move in a sense BUT Ortiz had just headbutted him so im kinda with Floyd in a way. Either way its a legit KO by the rules.

[SalTheButcher]

I just saw a replay of the whole thing actually. Cortez does say either 'Lets Go' or 'Box On'. So Ortiz just fucked up. Mayweather did a bit of a bitch move in a sense BUT Ortiz had just headbutted him so im kinda with Floyd in a way. Either way its a legit KO by the rules.

im pretty sure at the very least cortez had already called for the clock to be restarted (unless he forgot to stop it in the first place)


i think the clock being stopped would be the only scenario that would possibly change the result, but even then it would probably just be changed to a NC



ortiz had tried headbutting about 4 times before that tho, so he brought it upon himslef, if u wanna headbutt learn to be shady about it

[J_C]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

[Gandalf]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

Because he was gobsmacked that he had been sucker punched, he looked to the ref to jump in. Cortez stood there doing nothing but gawping and then counted the poor sod out after getting another one.

[Dizaster]

As Cortez said continue, Floyd wins without breaking any rule... Simple...

But i'm thinking even if Cortez didn't call time in, it still wouldn't be instant DQ for Floyd and the fight handed to Ortiz... I would have thought that if it went different and Ortiz got up after a floyd punch outside time, then Floyd would have lost a point as well.. Not been instantly disqualified...

But the fight was stopped because the punch KO'd him.. If it was an illegal punch, the best it would be is a No Contest maybe? ie it's not an act that gets you instantly DQ.... punching before a ref says box.?

[jabvargas24]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

Dont forget the cheap shots Ortiz got in after the butt.

[kishoph]

What a piece of Shit Floyd Mayweather is, what a sucker punch, the ref never even told them to box and he pulled that Shit. I'm disappointed at ORTIZ that he hugged him after the fight, he should of beat him over the head with a chair.
LARRY MERCHANT said if he was 50 years younger he'd kick his Ass. What another black eye for boxing, Mayweather should be stripped of everything and banned for life for what he pulled. I would love to see PACQUIAO kill that piece of Shit. COTEZ didn't tell them to box, he was looking at the corner and you could see his shock when he looked back at the fighters.

[fan johnny]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

I saw an attempted butt but not a successful one. I could be wrong but I didn't see it land.

[J_C]

The butt definitely landed. Floyd had a bleeding mouth from it.

[marbleheadmaui]

Unless Cortez called a break (which I didn't see or hear) Floyd did nothing against the rules.

[imp]

Unless Cortez called a break (which I didn't see or hear) Floyd did nothing against the rules.

exactly

[GAME]

The butt definitely landed. Floyd had a bleeding mouth from it.

Exactly. Ortiz' foul was blatant but Floyds wasnt because they were punches. Wasnt his fault Ortiz wasnt defending himself. The ref is to blame. So is Ortiz but Floyd is not.

It was a good performance from Floyd up til then but then he gets booed and Larry puts a downer on the fight just like he did with Lewis vs Vitali. He never gives credit to guys he wants to see lose.

[rjj tszyu]

First of all what Floyd did was totally legal, Cortez told them to box on and then remembered to signal the clock back in. That is Cortez's fault certainly not Floyds. Secondly how can anyone have a go at Floyd for taking a cheap shot (which was legal) after Ortiz had just clearly butted him?

Frustration had set in and Ortiz knew he was getting picked apart so he resorted to a Tysonesque approach which backfired big time.

[greynotsoold]

In a similar situation, Michael Spinks ko'd Eddie Davis years ago...may've been Johnnie Davis. Good bit of show biz with Merchant; I think he took it in good humor. Since Ali turned an honorable sport into pro wrestling, all that stuff is fair game. I think that the only guy that did nothing wrong was Mayweather.(And Larry.)

[marbleheadmaui]

In a similar situation, Michael Spinks ko'd Eddie Davis years ago...may've been Johnnie Davis. Good bit of show biz with Merchant; I think he took it in good humor. Since Ali turned an honorable sport into pro wrestling, all that stuff is fair game. I think that the only guy that did nothing wrong was Mayweather.(And Larry.)

Great post.