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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    9 times out of 10 Lennox Lewis would have beaten Ali

    it might be hard to swallow because of the fairy tales of Ali but its true

    id put lewis in the top 2 or 3 HWs of all time
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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    9 times out of 10 Lennox Lewis would have beaten Ali

    it might be hard to swallow because of the fairy tales of Ali but its true

    id put lewis in the top 2 or 3 HWs of all time
    I don't know about 9 out of 10 times - I can picture them being pretty even like the Frazier fights (obviously in a different way because of the differing styles).

    I know it's a cop-out answer but I'd still put Ali as the greatest just for everything he achieved in and out of the boxing ring. It's very rare that you get a superstar who is the absolute best at his sport, fights everybody put in front of him, has a chin, has the skills and has the charisma/worldwide appeal that Ali had. You just can't touch that.

    In terms of pure boxing, Ali in his prime gives every heavyweight in history a run for their money imho..But styles make fights.

    As far as Lewis, he was very under-appreciated while boxing. Another case of "missed when he was gone. I'd put him within the top 5 heavy's of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    9 times out of 10 Lennox Lewis would have beaten Ali

    it might be hard to swallow because of the fairy tales of Ali but its true

    id put lewis in the top 2 or 3 HWs of all time
    I don't know about 9 out of 10 times - I can picture them being pretty even like the Frazier fights (obviously in a different way because of the differing styles).

    I know it's a cop-out answer but I'd still put Ali as the greatest just for everything he achieved in and out of the boxing ring. It's very rare that you get a superstar who is the absolute best at his sport, fights everybody put in front of him, has a chin, has the skills and has the charisma/worldwide appeal that Ali had. You just can't touch that.

    In terms of pure boxing, Ali in his prime gives every heavyweight in history a run for their money imho..But styles make fights.

    As far as Lewis, he was very under-appreciated while boxing. Another case of "missed when he was gone. I'd put him within the top 5 heavy's of all time.
    if someone asked me who was the greatest hw of all time I could answer Ali because of his charisma and what he achieved outside the ring

    hes not the greatest hw boxer of all time, he would have lost to a number of others most of the time
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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    he would have lost to a number of others most of the time
    like who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    he would have lost to a number of others most of the time
    like who?
    lennox lewis, vitali klitchko, wladimir Klitchko

    david haye
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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    no.

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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    9 times out of 10 Lennox Lewis would have beaten Ali

    it might be hard to swallow because of the fairy tales of Ali but its true

    id put lewis in the top 2 or 3 HWs of all time
    I don't know about 9 out of 10 times - I can picture them being pretty even like the Frazier fights (obviously in a different way because of the differing styles).

    I know it's a cop-out answer but I'd still put Ali as the greatest just for everything he achieved in and out of the boxing ring. It's very rare that you get a superstar who is the absolute best at his sport, fights everybody put in front of him, has a chin, has the skills and has the charisma/worldwide appeal that Ali had. You just can't touch that.

    In terms of pure boxing, Ali in his prime gives every heavyweight in history a run for their money imho..But styles make fights.

    As far as Lewis, he was very under-appreciated while boxing. Another case of "missed when he was gone. I'd put him within the top 5 heavy's of all time.
    if someone asked me who was the greatest hw of all time I could answer Ali because of his charisma and what he achieved outside the ring

    hes not the greatest hw boxer of all time, he would have lost to a number of others most of the time

    same can be said about Lewis, a small Oliver McCall was able to spark him in a round, so what tells you that Joe Frazier wouldn't be able to follow suit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    9 times out of 10 Lennox Lewis would have beaten Ali

    it might be hard to swallow because of the fairy tales of Ali but its true

    id put lewis in the top 2 or 3 HWs of all time
    I don't know about 9 out of 10 times - I can picture them being pretty even like the Frazier fights (obviously in a different way because of the differing styles).

    I know it's a cop-out answer but I'd still put Ali as the greatest just for everything he achieved in and out of the boxing ring. It's very rare that you get a superstar who is the absolute best at his sport, fights everybody put in front of him, has a chin, has the skills and has the charisma/worldwide appeal that Ali had. You just can't touch that.

    In terms of pure boxing, Ali in his prime gives every heavyweight in history a run for their money imho..But styles make fights.

    As far as Lewis, he was very under-appreciated while boxing. Another case of "missed when he was gone. I'd put him within the top 5 heavy's of all time.
    if someone asked me who was the greatest hw of all time I could answer Ali because of his charisma and what he achieved outside the ring

    hes not the greatest hw boxer of all time, he would have lost to a number of others most of the time
    same can be said about Lewis, a small Oliver McCall was able to spark him in a round, so what tells you that Joe Frazier wouldn't be able to follow suit?
    yep that did happen but i dont think you can sum up Lewis' career on that performance

    999 times out of 1000 lewis would beat McCall

    about the same ratio with frazier

    I would go as far to say that Frazier is the most over rated HW of all time
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    Lets put another name out there...Jack Johnson...he was a hell of a boxer with great skills...i reckon he could have given everyone a tough fight...even Lewis

    job biscuit (Johnson would have slaughtered Marciano)!!!

    eh eh!!!

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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    yes he certainly completed dominated Tua, boring as all hell as it was; but he couldnt really seriously hurt or let alone finish him. Tua fought un-gallantly and hardly took risks to press Lewis. My point is if a pressure fighter like Frazier or Tyson really pressed Lewis, good chins that they had of iron practically, and willing to take a few to give a few, how well would Lewis have dealt with 1988 Tyson? I dont know, Im just wondering what others think.

    As for 1965 Clay being guff, well, listen, that dude WAS magic in that year, as in '66, '67 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    yes he certainly completed dominated Tua, boring as all hell as it was; but he couldnt really seriously hurt or let alone finish him. Tua fought un-gallantly and hardly took risks to press Lewis. My point is if a pressure fighter like Frazier or Tyson really pressed Lewis, good chins that they had of iron practically, and willing to take a few to give a few, how well would Lewis have dealt with 1988 Tyson? I dont know, Im just wondering what others think.

    As for 1965 Clay being guff, well, listen, that dude WAS magic in that year, as in '66, '67 as well.
    Minus the hand speed and one punch pop it almost describes the Mercer Lewis slugged it out with. I'm not entirely sure Tyson could soak up the Lewis artillery that Mercer had and Mikes jab was almost a throw away jab where Rays was short, sturdy and did damage that night. The biggest hitters Tyson faced up to then were Smith and Bruno and maybe Tucker, all stung him at one point. Best vs best I lean to Lewis to take Tyson. Would have been nice scrap

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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    yeah gotta agree, lewis/tyson may have been an 80s foreman/frazier

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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    yes he certainly completed dominated Tua, boring as all hell as it was; but he couldnt really seriously hurt or let alone finish him. Tua fought un-gallantly and hardly took risks to press Lewis. My point is if a pressure fighter like Frazier or Tyson really pressed Lewis, good chins that they had of iron practically, and willing to take a few to give a few, how well would Lewis have dealt with 1988 Tyson? I dont know, Im just wondering what others think.

    As for 1965 Clay being guff, well, listen, that dude WAS magic in that year, as in '66, '67 as well.
    Bob Hayes was olimpic 100 m champion in 1964 , you think he would hold up against Usain Bolt ?
    Clay was a top fighter but its ridiculous to think he would have beaten all of todays massive HW'S , the guy was out fought by glass jawed Ken Norton.
    No way in hell he beats Lewis best of 3 , sorry i just dont buy the living in the past bullshit, yes some old time fighters who have to make weight could beat todays fighters of the same weight , but im sorry clay was a pup compared to Hw's like Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    yes he certainly completed dominated Tua, boring as all hell as it was; but he couldnt really seriously hurt or let alone finish him. Tua fought un-gallantly and hardly took risks to press Lewis. My point is if a pressure fighter like Frazier or Tyson really pressed Lewis, good chins that they had of iron practically, and willing to take a few to give a few, how well would Lewis have dealt with 1988 Tyson? I dont know, Im just wondering what others think.

    As for 1965 Clay being guff, well, listen, that dude WAS magic in that year, as in '66, '67 as well.
    Bob Hayes was olimpic 100 m champion in 1964 , you think he would hold up against Usain Bolt ?
    Clay was a top fighter but its ridiculous to think he would have beaten all of todays massive HW'S , the guy was out fought by glass jawed Ken Norton.
    No way in hell he beats Lewis best of 3 , sorry i just dont buy the living in the past bullshit, yes some old time fighters who have to make weight could beat todays fighters of the same weight , but im sorry clay was a pup compared to Hw's like Lewis.
    What a load of shit. A very old George Foreman who Ali KO'd in his absolute peak came back and won THE HW title in Lennox Lewis' era. Evander Holyfield was smaller than Ali and past his prime and still gave Lewis serious problems in the second fight. Ali would be champ in any era without doubt.

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    Default Re: Was Lennox Lewis the greatest HW of ALL-TIME?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    yes he certainly completed dominated Tua, boring as all hell as it was; but he couldnt really seriously hurt or let alone finish him. Tua fought un-gallantly and hardly took risks to press Lewis. My point is if a pressure fighter like Frazier or Tyson really pressed Lewis, good chins that they had of iron practically, and willing to take a few to give a few, how well would Lewis have dealt with 1988 Tyson? I dont know, Im just wondering what others think.

    As for 1965 Clay being guff, well, listen, that dude WAS magic in that year, as in '66, '67 as well.
    Bob Hayes was olimpic 100 m champion in 1964 , you think he would hold up against Usain Bolt ?
    Clay was a top fighter but its ridiculous to think he would have beaten all of todays massive HW'S , the guy was out fought by glass jawed Ken Norton.
    No way in hell he beats Lewis best of 3 , sorry i just dont buy the living in the past bullshit, yes some old time fighters who have to make weight could beat todays fighters of the same weight , but im sorry clay was a pup compared to Hw's like Lewis.
    What a load of shit. A very old George Foreman who Ali KO'd in his absolute peak came back and won THE HW title in Lennox Lewis' era. Evander Holyfield was smaller than Ali and past his prime and still gave Lewis serious problems in the second fight. Ali would be champ in any era without doubt.
    #no way , a guy who cant ko Ken Norton , isnt beating Lewis , i think the brothers grim would also fair well against so called greats of the past.
    This isnt like comparing Ray Robinson to Hagler at 160 lbs , we are talking massive weight differences.

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