Fighting outside, inside and mid range and holding

**Andre** · 09-25-2011 10:51 PM

So he is over committing and gets read easily? Once he is over committed he gets timed backing out trying to find his range?

**Gocougars3** · 09-26-2011 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Andre

So he is over committing and gets read easily? Once he is over committed he gets timed backing out trying to find his range?

No, he doesn't get read well when he explodes and he never gets hit backing out. We are concerned that perimeter sticking and moving in combination with tough inside fighting might not be enough for the top guys. We talked about it today again. I think the main problem is that he isn't comfortable getting off first at mid range. Maybe a good compromise is that he tries to draw fire and counter at mid range (he is very solid at countering).

**Andre** · 09-26-2011 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gocougars3

Originally Posted by Andre

So he is over committing and gets read easily? Once he is over committed he gets timed backing out trying to find his range?

No, he doesn't get read well when he explodes and he never gets hit backing out. We are concerned that perimeter sticking and moving in combination with tough inside fighting might not be enough for the top guys. We talked about it today again. I think the main problem is that he isn't comfortable getting off first at mid range. Maybe a good compromise is that he tries to draw fire and counter at mid range (he is very solid at countering).

Yeah sounds good for him.

Could get him to really get to know distances and their limits by teaching him interruption of the opponents movements. EG: If his glove touched their elbow or either side and inch or two would that be at his optimum range? Cause if he deals with their arms just outside of the distance he prefers to throw from, then he can interrupt their arm movement, adjust and fire.

**Andre** · 09-26-2011 12:21 PM

Looking forwards to Grey and Scraps answers on this one. Probably adjusting body lean/angle

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**Gocougars3** · 09-26-2011 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Andre

Looking forwards to Grey and Scraps answers on this one. Probably adjusting body lean/angle

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Yeah, the more input the better. I have been impressed by the quality of the advice in this forum.

I think your comments are on target. I have watched fight progressions (consecutively) of Frazier, Ali, Johnny Tapia, Floyd Patterson, Michael Carbajal (I know it's a weird mix) but one thing I always notice is how much better fighters learn to control their spacing over the course of their careers (particularly over their first 12-15 fights). My guy is 4(3)-0 as a pro. He has limited amateurs but I think amateur and pro spacing is quite different.