oh, for commercial use, eh? No wonder. Gloves used by everyone in the gym can last for only so long. Kids beat the crap out of stuff that isn't theirs. I figure two pairs, each with a dedicated use, ought to last me quite a while. When my everlasts go I'll invest in some nicer "bag" gloves. When I bought my everlasts I didn't know the difference between a training glove and a bag glove. My goal was to not have to wear stinky sweaty gloves supplied by the gym. Some things just shouldn't be shared.