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[Dia bando]

All you Froch fan's your man give's his all but Joe was a diffrent level ALL I GOT TO SAY 46 AND 0 Mr Knight you just come off the Froch forum what it must make you just a little sick your man 's not THAT GOOD

[RohanKnight]

All you Froch fan's your man give's his all but Joe was a diffrent level ALL I GOT TO SAY 46 AND 0 Mr Knight you just come off the Froch forum what it must make you just a little sick your man 's not THAT GOOD

ah, come on thats very unfair. I am a fan of both of them. and I dislike them both in some ways Carl for beng a big mouth and JC for fighting nobodies forever.

Froch has fought (and won versus) better boxers, theres no doubt about it now. His limits have been exposed, but so have JCs. Joe struggled against a cagey, even dirty, fighter like B-Hop (although he won on workrate and fitness obviously). So a fit Bhop who didnt gass might well have got the decision on him back in the early Norties. JC wouldnt be 46-0 if hadnt cherry picked - but hes not alone in that respect. Sugar Ray Leonard cherrypicked too.

My point rests on the fact that Carl Froch has beaten a greater number of better fighters than JC, and desnt cherrypick - this cant really be denied, can it? If you still deny it, consider this - if JC had fought and beaten the fighters Carl Froch has done in the last few years, would he be a greater champion than he is now? Well of course he would a greater champion with even more respect, in fact he would be a much more revered champion with all his doubters won over....and so clearly and blatantly what Carl has done boosts his resume prodigiously too. You cant have your cake and eat it with this argument.

Not denying that JC was the most accomplished at holding the title of supermiddleweight champion, and clearly make the list of the top ten supermiddleweights ever. But Froch clearly has the superior RESUME, just as you would have to say a 'parallel world' Calzaghe who fought all the fighters Froch has would definitely be superior in resume to 'our world' Calzaghe.

[Islander]

just as long as you Calzaghe fans stop using Eubank, a great fighter to prop up Joe's record, praise the man all you want

[Dia bando]

Just some point's Froch fight's with his left hand by his waist, and he is very open to counter's he has a good chin. Joe would have made him look A FOOL just not on his level, i have seen many great champ's over the many year's and Joe is up there with them but NOT Froch . By the way Ward will out box him sorry to say it he is not that good.