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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    Last edited by ICB; 10-03-2011 at 08:56 AM.

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    I know punchstats don't tell the whole story, but i just went a checked the stats and according to the stats Barker was only dominated in the last 2 rounds. All the other rounds regarding punches landed were all competitive, and i think Martinez probably got more credit for glancing punches aswell. Because not that much was landing clean in the the 1st half of the fight.

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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    yeah he won more than 2 rounds and who ever said he didnt come to win thats not very fair

    he had no experience at that level and away from home

    An Martinez has all of the experience

    If barker has a couple more fights at that type of level and in that type of atmosphere and they did it again, i would expect the fight to be a lot closer
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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    Martinez was just fighting down to the level of his opposition. He took some shots and got bloodly nose but was never really in any trouble. He was pretty much toying with Barker. It looked like he could of ended it when ever he really felt like it. And did.

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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    I think Barker can be given between 2 and 4 rounds. To give him only one round is very harsh. Martinez was hitting a lot of gloves whilst Barker was walking him down with the jab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I think Barker can be given between 2 and 4 rounds. To give him only one round is very harsh. Martinez was hitting a lot of gloves whilst Barker was walking him down with the jab.
    Fenster is right. Barker deserved between 2 and 4 rounds. I gave him 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matias64 View Post
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    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.
    Nothing to do with being biased im not really a fan of Barker, i just fail to see what Martinez done in the 1st half that makes the fight ridiculously wide. Like you guys are saying because i didn't see it that way at all. I see Barker landing the clean punches and Martinez just looking at Barker, and dropping his hands and having his punches mostly blocked.

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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matias64 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.
    In Ice's defense, I've never known him to be biased towards British fighters.

    I was half-watching the fight on a shitty stream in between rounds of the Marquez fight and from what I saw Barker was giving Martinez all he could handle early on.

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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    I have nothing but respect for Barkers early showing but he didn't just wilt on his own. He wilted because Martinez made adjustments and found another gear.

    I really don't get much of the debate on rounds in a fight that did afterall end in a clear KO! Ya came to fight, well done, we get it.

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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    Seriously, so Barker won a few rounds, bloodied Martinez nose and made the fight competitive. The bottom line is, Barker was clearly losing the fight going into the 11th round and then got KTFO. So where's the fucking argument? Ans: there really isn't one.

    Martinez won a tougher then expected fight, by KO, end of story.
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    Default Re: Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
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    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.
    What was Martinez doing though ? just dropping his hands looking at Barker, i really can't understand why people had it so wide. Martinez virtually done nothing in the 1st half, and Barker was the one landing all the accurate shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.
    What was Martinez doing though ? just dropping his hands looking at Barker, i really can't understand why people had it so wide. Martinez virtually done nothing in the 1st half, and Barker was the one landing all the accurate shots.
    You keep rehashing an argument that most people don't agree with, what fucking difference does it really make if some folks had Martinez winning by a wide margin? Barker got KTFO, quit yer bitchin' and get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

    Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.
    If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.
    What was Martinez doing though ? just dropping his hands looking at Barker, i really can't understand why people had it so wide. Martinez virtually done nothing in the 1st half, and Barker was the one landing all the accurate shots.
    You keep rehashing an argument that most people don't agree with, what fucking difference does it really make if some folks had Martinez winning by a wide margin? Barker got KTFO, quit yer bitchin' and get over it.
    He quit more than get KTFO

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