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Froch has eclipsed Calzaghe now. If he had picked his fights he'd be unbeaten too.


I really do want the Big Man from Nottingham to take Ward, but its asking a lot at 34.

A lot of people think Carl would have got knocked out by JC but I cant see that happening, and most likely the Calzo would get a points victory by going all slappy as is his habit.

Well he has lost only once and that was to somebody Calzaghe also fought and beat, so your logic is pretty stupid.

I don't know about comfortable... my memory was that until later in the fight when Joe adapted, Kessler was able to give Joe quite a bit of trouble.

Carl fought a more experienced Kessler in his own backyard and gave him a VERY close fight.

It was also Kessler going for bust... if he'd lost to Froch after his previous fights then his career would have been well and truly over... I can't see him able to get more motivated than that.

You also have to consider the fact that Kessler had been able to watch the iteration of Carl that he was fighting in the ring with multiple other elite SMWs making his flaws look a lot more obvious and exploitable. Can the same really be said of Joe Calzaghe? Would Hopkins or Kessler really be able to learn much about the version of Joe they were fighting by watching him happy slap Peter Manfredo's arms for a few minutes?

I think Joe probably UDs Carl... but I really don't think there can be much denying that Froch's recent run beats any of Joe's in terms of consistent class in opponents and performances.

I don't have a problem with saying that Carl Froch's recent run is very impressive. I feel like we need to wait to judge Carl Froch against Joe Calzaghe until Carl Froch retires. This is a bit premature. As of now, Carl's best win in my book was still over Jean Pascal. He dominated Arthur Abraham better than Ward did and before Ward did and coming into the fight as a slight underdog. Yet, Abraham was never a true super middleweight because his power didn't translate. He also beat Dirrell, but that win said more about what Dirrell lacks than what Carl has. Glen Johnson is a warrior and he gets credit for beating him, but Glen Johnson has proven to lose at the top. Still, Carl lost to Kessler, and Calzaghe beat Kessler. This is the main loss that takes away from Froch in my opinion. Kessler is class, and Froch is Kessler's best victory, but Calzaghe dominated Kessler. Rewatch that fight, it wasn't late in the fight that Calzaghe took over, it was about round 4. I think Kessler took approximately 3 rounds, maybe 2 rounds of that fight. Calzaghe also beat BHop who went on to beat Pavlik and Pascal.