Lyle Fitzimmons alledges Joe Fraizer does NOT belong in the Hall of Fame

[Beanz]

Fitzimmons is a Scamboogah

[greynotsoold]

Fitzsimmons is spot on. Too bad he didn't include Johannsson, McGuigan, and (one of my all time favorites) Little Red Lopez. I can't even make much argument for Billy Graham and Fritzie Zivic (two more of my favorites) being in there. Or Sonny Liston or Floyd Patterson, or Jersey Joe Walcott. And just wait until Gatti and Ward and Jessie James Leija get inducted, and they will since they have, I believe, mandatory annual induction numbers.

[brocktonblockbust]

[El Kabong]

Not every Lyle can be as smart as me

[imp]

Stallone is in the hall of fame and some people believe its based on the frazier upbringing!

[Mctaggert]

I think the hall of fame should be more than about a fighters record. Joe helped bring the sport of boxing to hights we will likley never see again. The first and third fights with Ali have gone down in legend and rightly so.

Joe was shorter than a lot of fighters, not exactly build for speed either, but he had heart and power.
If you put other fighters brains in Joe's body and went "right I want you to beat Geroge Foreman".
I bet they would get crushed too, remember Joe only weighed 205 pounds he's almost a cuiser in todays standards.

He deserves to be there and so do most of the others, its bitter of people to say otherwise.

[armin]

Certainly no expert on the old timers, but hell the first and third ali fights should be enough by themseleves almost. As someone mentioned they were broadcast worldwide something like a 100 countries, meaning my dad and grandpa might not know any other american boxers from that era but they sure as hell know ali and frazier.

[Mr140]

One Thing that always confused me about Hall of Fame is what exactly is it for. I mean to some its place to put boxers that made a impact and to others they think place for only top of the crop should go.

[THE THIRD MAN]

What people are forgetting is that back in the 70's the Heavyweight Champion Of The World was known world wide as a sporting identity. Ask your average man in the street today this question "who is Vitali Klitschko"? The answer will not come as easily as the look of bewilderment you will get for asking it. Anybody interested in sport knew who Ali was, they also knew who Joe Frazier was, who George Foreman was. The Madison Square Garden fight with Ali was probably the most anticipated fight in history, it was also a world wide sporting event, so was the Rumble In the Jungle. You didn't have to be a boxing fan to know who these guys were. Joe Frazier was a sporting personality not only in the ring, but out of it. Just who was Ali taunting all those years? Frazier had some great wins, he was undefeated and was the first man to beat Ali. He lost to big George in 1973, tell me who wouldn't have on that night? This unnecessary criticism of Joe Frazier is puzzling, he is from a different era, an era when being the Heavyweight Champion Of The World actually meant something.

[Mars_ax]

Who the fuck is Lyle Fitzimmons? If Joe Frazier doesn't deserve to be in the BHOF, then 80% of the inductees don't either, Lyle Fitzimmons is an idiot.