Hopkins vs. Dawson on HBO PPV Oct 15th (Offical Sat Night chat thread)

[Gandalf]

Kermit Cintron would have been proud of that act but I think that will be overruled by the comission no matter what Harold says. No contest by Tuesday.

What did Harold say?

That the refereeing decision was final and cannot be overruled by the commission.

Total bullshit if true.

Chad should be DQ'd if anything.

Bollocks. He pushed an octopus away, I see nothing particularly scandalous in Dawson's behaviour.

[ICB]

Kermit Cintron would have been proud of that act but I think that will be overruled by the comission no matter what Harold says. No contest by Tuesday.

What did Harold say?

That the refereeing decision was final and cannot be overruled by the commission.

Total bullshit if true.

Chad should be DQ'd if anything.

Bollocks. He pushed an octopus away, I see nothing particularly scandalous in Dawson's behaviour.

Let's wait and see if the injury is legit, it seems legit to me. This is almost exactly like the Antwun Echols fight where he dislocated his shoulder.

[NuthaPug]

Uncalled for move by Dawson. No respect from me.

Guess it's karma because some ass chose to stay home to watch the fight instead of visit his college friend. We all pay.

Thanks, dude.

[armin]

Uncalled for move by Dawson. No respect from me.

Guess it's karma because some ass chose to stay home to watch the fight instead of visit his college friend. We all pay.

Thanks, dude.

Oh no I dipped out as soon as I saw hop rollin on the floor, didn't realize I had actually watched the whole fight by that point so was right wasbt gona miss nothin haha

[Spicoli]

This is a mans personality coming back to bite him in the ass and another being given a gift...bullshit tkos are bullshit tkos and this was a horrid call. At the least he should have been put in corner for 5 and continue or not.

Roles reversed it would not be tolerated

[JT Rock]

It can't be a tko. A boxing blow wasn't thrown. By definition of the rules you can't rule something when it isint even a possible outcome

[Gandalf]

Hopkins is a hypocrite talking about dirty boxing. Why does he constantly hug his opponents? That's okay and to push you off isn't?

To hell with Hopkins and his whingeing. And I agree with Dawson, a rematch isn't needed. Hopkins was losing anyway and knowing his recent past would attempt to find ways out and dirty up a fight.

[ICB]

Hopkins is a hypocrite talking about dirty boxing. Why does he constantly hug his opponents? That's okay and to push you off isn't?

To hell with Hopkins and his whingeing. And I agree with Dawson, a rematch isn't needed. Hopkins was losing anyway and knowing his recent past would attempt to find ways out and dirty up a fight.

I wouldn't say anyone was winning, both men landed one clean punch and that was about it.

[Kev]

Kermit Cintron would have been proud of that act but I think that will be overruled by the comission no matter what Harold says. No contest by Tuesday.

What did Harold say?

That the refereeing decision was final and cannot be overruled by the commission.

Total bullshit if true.

Chad should be DQ'd if anything.

Bollocks. He pushed an octopus away, I see nothing particularly scandalous in Dawson's behaviour.

Miles we all know that had Hopkins thrown Dawson and been awarded a TKO you would be frothing at the mouth and creating at least half a dozen threads about how it was the worst decision in boxing history.

You are so myopic it's unreal.

[ICB]

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[Spicoli]

It as clearly a scissor clip crap move. Dawson cuffs his leg and shrugs him off huge, clear as fooking day. Ref was mute on both counts

[NuthaPug]

So only one of us got it right in the poll at the top of this thread.

That's kinda funny.

I know Hopkins seems to have a hstory of overplaying the injury factor, but I tend to agree with his comments to Kellerman: that this is what it is. Dawson dipped low, Hopkins swung over him and maybe overdid that too as he put his weight on Dawson. Another typical tactic like walking the other fighter backwards by leaning - tire him out. And a head game to frustrate him, too. It's Hopkins. And Dawson didn't like it.

Who would? But Dawson overdid the reaction. What he did was illegal.

And the ref seemed to go into neutral and lose all sense of purpose and direction at this point as others have mentioned. No count for BHop, no warning to Dawson, no nothing. I was sure it would be either a no contest (boo hiss) or a DQ (yes!).

I hope that a medical exam proves a real injury, and that the decision is overturned. Dawson doesn't deserve to become a champion this way.

Sad. This following so closely on the heels of Mayweather-Ortiz is disheartening. (Not to compare the two in any way except that each is an abnormal, unexpected and controversial ending to a fairly major fight).

Fight looked even to me and I was hoping to see Hopkins turn it up else it might have gone the way of the Jermaine Taylor fights was my fear. Dawson looked like he could have been a real threat by being more active and bringing the fight. Shouldn'a had to tackle Hopkins to win.

[Hulk]

What an abrupt ending. I'm glad I did not order the ppv for that one. Jesus Christ...

Bernard has faked in the past, especially in the Roy Jones rematch, but tonight Dawson scooped up Hopkins and dumped him on the ground.

Easily could have been a DQ, which might have been what Hopkins was aiming for and may have milked it a bit.

A no contest is the LEAST it could be.

But a fucking TKO win for Dawson !? WTF !?

[Majesty]

Can't justify what happened by saying Hopkins did it in the past.

If Hopkins had a history of faking being low blowed, it wouldn't be justified if an opponent blatantly did it and then was awarded a win because of it.

Dawson was in the wrong, both in the foul, and then his behavior after the fight. Hopkins for once was legit fouled and injured. Wrong is wrong, it doesn't matter if he has faked injury in the past, it doesn't make it right that he was robbed tonight.

Hopkins deserves a rematch and Dawson is going to try to avoid it cause he knows.

[mrkyll]

What an abrupt ending. I'm glad I did not order the ppv for that one. Jesus Christ...

Bernard has faked in the past, especially in the Roy Jones rematch, but tonight Dawson scooped up Hopkins and dumped him on the ground.

Easily could have been a DQ, which might have been what Hopkins was aiming for and may have milked it a bit.

A no contest is the LEAST it could be.

But a fucking TKO win for Dawson !? WTF !?

Dawson did NOT scoop him up. Watch the video, Hopkins was climbing on his back. His right foot was already in the air before Dawson made his contact