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    Default Re: Doctor's Report on Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RohanKnight View Post
    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    A dislocated shoulder look very clear on xray -see the one below! -

    1.the green arrow shows where the socket has been forced
    2. the red arrow shows the little 'cup' or socket where it should be resting to provide a fulcrum for the shoulder muscles to move it.

    Clearly the arm cant be used when its not in its cup/socket, as theres nothing for its head to rest against, so real forces cannot be exerted to move it. And theres no way a useful doctor can misinterpret the change in position.

    Even touching the surface of the skin should be enough to reveal that the socket's head isnt where it should be, if you cant feel the arm bone underneath the top of the shoulder, its certainly dislocated - you can do this on yourself, start weith the shoulder bone right at the top of your shoulder nearest your neck at the highest point possible, move your fingers out until you loose contact with bone, theres a tiny gap and then a return to bone - that new bone is part of that 'ball' the arm bone, and thats where it should be with a non dislocated shoulder.


    Observe the Xray pic below - the ball of the arm bone, even to the layman's eyes, can be seen directly out of the shoulder's concave socket it should be sitting in. Its very clear cut.

    (This is an anterior dislocation, the most common one and the likely on Bhop suffered)
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    Nice pic, if in fact this is what happened to Hopkins.
    haha ta! I cant completely rule out a corrupt doctor faking the xray from another patient.
    But yeah, it would have been obvious the bone wasnt in place just be touch, dont know why the ring doctor didnt check just by touching Bernards shoulder.

    Personally I have no doubt it was a genuine injury, these shoulder injuries happen a lot of you stay in contact sport after 35. The body starts losing minute amounts of muscle all over the body after 30 and some of intricate muscles cant be rebuilt with weight training, and some of the shoulder muscles are very intricate and small. Once they start to go, its a slippery slope and you need to quit sport soon.
    Last edited by RohanKnight; 10-16-2011 at 09:01 PM.

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    Nice pic, if in fact this is what happened to Hopkins.
    haha ta! I cant completely rule out a corrupt doctor faking the xray from another patient.
    But yeah, it would have been obvious the bone wasnt in place just be touch, dont know why the ring doctor didnt check just by touching Bernards shoulder.
    Just curious, isn't an injury like that really painful? If so, why was Hopkins walking around like nothing had happened after the fight? I'm not questioning whether Hopkins had some sort of minor injury, just the severity of it.

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    Default Re: Doctor's Report on Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Nice pic, if in fact this is what happened to Hopkins.
    haha ta! I cant completely rule out a corrupt doctor faking the xray from another patient.
    But yeah, it would have been obvious the bone wasnt in place just be touch, dont know why the ring doctor didnt check just by touching Bernards shoulder.
    Just curious, isn't an injury like that really painful? If so, why was Hopkins walking around like nothing had happened after the fight? I'm not questioning whether Hopkins had some sort of minor injury, just the severity of it.
    So first of all he was faking and acting as clearly it wasn't a painful fall, now he's not faked it enough as you think he should have been writhing about more.

    I think you need to read the rest of my previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Nice pic, if in fact this is what happened to Hopkins.
    haha ta! I cant completely rule out a corrupt doctor faking the xray from another patient.
    But yeah, it would have been obvious the bone wasnt in place just be touch, dont know why the ring doctor didnt check just by touching Bernards shoulder.
    Just curious, isn't an injury like that really painful? If so, why was Hopkins walking around like nothing had happened after the fight? I'm not questioning whether Hopkins had some sort of minor injury, just the severity of it.
    So first of all he was faking and acting as clearly it wasn't a painful fall, now he's not faked it enough as you think he should have been writhing about more.

    I think you need to read the rest of my previous post.
    Huh? I'm not sure what you're saying here, Hopkins has a history of being theatrical, so I question the severity of the "injury", and whether some of the "writhing about" on the canvas wasn't histrionics. Just sayin' this isn't the first time Hopkins has pulled some tricky bullshit, so it's not unreasonable to suspect, that at least some of his behavior was bogus.

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    Default Re: Doctor's Report on Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Nice pic, if in fact this is what happened to Hopkins.
    haha ta! I cant completely rule out a corrupt doctor faking the xray from another patient.
    But yeah, it would have been obvious the bone wasnt in place just be touch, dont know why the ring doctor didnt check just by touching Bernards shoulder.
    Just curious, isn't an injury like that really painful? If so, why was Hopkins walking around like nothing had happened after the fight? I'm not questioning whether Hopkins had some sort of minor injury, just the severity of it.
    to me it looked like he was in a lot of pain, he was bawling at everyone, allowing for fight adrenaline.

    However if you arent moving it, the pain is minimised, and he wasnt moving it MUCH. If he'd had to try and lift it to keep fighting, phewf... you'd have seen a different Bernado.

    Using a good fictional reference, in the MMA movie Warrior (SPOILER -LOOK AWAY NOW if you've not seen it).......













    ........... I think he gets his shoulder dislocated in the last fight. He was as good as dead then, and hurting with every step. That might have been a broken arm though? I wqas too busy facepalming the crap ending to the movie to take full note.
    Last edited by RohanKnight; 10-16-2011 at 09:03 PM.

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