When Bernard gets his belt back should he give Dawson a rematch ?

[FinitoElDinamita]

NO and NO

[Hulk]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

[Majesty]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

[Rantcatrat]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

I hope Hopkins hangs them up. I saw the fight differently to be honest. Going into the fight, I thought Hopkins would eek out a decision although I admit going back and forth, but after seeing the body language of the two, I believe Hopkins fought the first person since Calzaghe that he couldn't manipulate mentally. I like Dawson in a rematch. I believe Hopkins was trying to pull one of those moves that he uses to take off 5 minutes. In his last few fights, it seems that he finds a way to take 5 minutes off every fight. Hopkins got what was coming to him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

I hope Hopkins hangs them up. I saw the fight differently to be honest. Going into the fight, I thought Hopkins would eek out a decision although I admit going back and forth, but after seeing the body language of the two, I believe Hopkins fought the first person since Calzaghe that he couldn't manipulate mentally. I like Dawson in a rematch. I believe Hopkins was trying to pull one of those moves that he uses to take off 5 minutes. In his last few fights, it seems that he finds a way to take 5 minutes off every fight. Hopkins got what was coming to him.

Hopkins was controlling Dawson and making him fight at his tempo, and apparently he did affect Dawson mentally hence the throwdown, the fake tantrum afterwards, and the weak refusal to give a "rematch", simply put Dawson became a bitch overnight and just managed to put a nice shit streak on his camera friendly "good guy" image, so much for backing him up against Pascal in a rematch

[Kev]

Whatever the commision decide a rematch clause will be automatically enforced on both parties I should imagine.

If they rule it a no decision and give Hopkins his belt back he will have to defend it against Dawson immediately I'd guess.

I'm not entirely sure they will reverse the decision however. I mean Joseph Agbeko was deliberately fouled and got a knockdown counted against him which lost him his title. A rematch was mandated but the decision stood...

[FinitoElDinamita]

bernard wont get his belt back because he got knocked out in the second round.. haha

Chad is the champion and he wont be giving the conman a rematch.. Snaggle tooth doesnt deserve it.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Whatever the commision decide a rematch clause will be automatically enforced on both parties I should imagine.

If they rule it a no decision and give Hopkins his belt back he will have to defend it against Dawson immediately I'd guess.

I'm not entirely sure they will reverse the decision however. I mean Joseph Agbeko was deliberately fouled and got a knockdown counted against him which lost him his title. A rematch was mandated but the decision stood...

I don't believe it's the commission who will decide on that but the WBC.

I think it's best for Hopkins to retire whether he gets the belt back or not.

[Taeth]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

I hope Hopkins hangs them up. I saw the fight differently to be honest. Going into the fight, I thought Hopkins would eek out a decision although I admit going back and forth, but after seeing the body language of the two, I believe Hopkins fought the first person since Calzaghe that he couldn't manipulate mentally. I like Dawson in a rematch. I believe Hopkins was trying to pull one of those moves that he uses to take off 5 minutes. In his last few fights, it seems that he finds a way to take 5 minutes off every fight. Hopkins got what was coming to him.

Hopkins was controlling Dawson and making him fight at his tempo, and apparently he did affect Dawson mentally hence the throwdown, the fake tantrum afterwards, and the weak refusal to give a "rematch", simply put Dawson became a bitch overnight and just managed to put a nice shit streak on his camera friendly "good guy" image, so much for backing him up against Pascal in a rematch

Hopkins was controlling Dawson? Really? He had the outside angle, but besides that Dawson was in complete control. Hopkins landed maybe once solidly with his right hand, and Dawson landed much better punches. He was putting pressure on Hopkins without abandoning his defense. The throw down was Dawson being rough against a rough fighter. I think he honestly believed Hopkins was faking, and he was frustrated because he was having an easy time with Hopkins and he knew Hopkins didn't want to be in there with him and wouldn't do it again.

[ross]

I think Bernard was having a little trouble but he wasnt losing. The last punch landed was a right hand thrown by Hopkins while Dawson tried to duck out the way.

They must know that a Hopkins tactic is to come in after the right but Dawson was still there as he threw it.

Hopkins landed more punches than Dawson for the near 2 rounds that were completed.
Bernard Hopkins vs. Chad Dawson - CompuBox

[Majesty]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

I hope Hopkins hangs them up. I saw the fight differently to be honest. Going into the fight, I thought Hopkins would eek out a decision although I admit going back and forth, but after seeing the body language of the two, I believe Hopkins fought the first person since Calzaghe that he couldn't manipulate mentally. I like Dawson in a rematch. I believe Hopkins was trying to pull one of those moves that he uses to take off 5 minutes. In his last few fights, it seems that he finds a way to take 5 minutes off every fight. Hopkins got what was coming to him.

Hopkins was controlling Dawson and making him fight at his tempo, and apparently he did affect Dawson mentally hence the throwdown, the fake tantrum afterwards, and the weak refusal to give a "rematch", simply put Dawson became a bitch overnight and just managed to put a nice shit streak on his camera friendly "good guy" image, so much for backing him up against Pascal in a rematch

Hopkins was controlling Dawson? Really? He had the outside angle, but besides that Dawson was in complete control. Hopkins landed maybe once solidly with his right hand, and Dawson landed much better punches. He was putting pressure on Hopkins without abandoning his defense. The throw down was Dawson being rough against a rough fighter. I think he honestly believed Hopkins was faking, and he was frustrated because he was having an easy time with Hopkins and he knew Hopkins didn't want to be in there with him and wouldn't do it again.

You're trying to put a mentality on Hopkins that isn't there by trying to insinuate that after one round Hopkins was ready to mentally throw in the towel, if that's the case why did he keep fighting when Pascal decked him? And the multiple times Hopkins stunned him in their rematch? You give Dawson too much credit and take too much credit away from Hopkins. If ever there was a fighter that would never "pack it in" after one and a half rounds which are mostly even right at the point he starts finding a right hand on Dawson...it isn't Hopkins. This is getting ridiculous.

[Taeth]

So you are in the minority that believe this TKO "win" will stand ?

Shaw has already said even if the WBC mandates a rematch they won't obey it and will give up the belt.

So either way Dawson is losing that belt he "won".

Dawson is doing that because he's scared and knows if Hopkins ever gets into the ring with him again he's gonna make him pay for all the post fight antics. Dawson has always been a sucker for a right hand and Hopkins caught him with one that put his glove on the canvas.

So he is taking any chance he can to get away from Hopkins after talking all that trash after the fight never wants to get in the ring with him again.

Dawson is going to duck Hopkins now and try to parade himself around as the 'peoples' champ, the writing's on the wall. Dawson doesn't want anymore of Hopkins and if he was so heated after the fight he would want to avenge it and give Hopkins the beating he claims he can... but he doesn't, he talked a lot of trash and is trying to stand behind it to avoid a rematch. That's a punk move. Sad thing is people are gonna buy it.

Are you kidding? Dawson was winning that fight. Bernard had no answers for his speed and reach. This was the first time Hopkins simply couldn't sucker a guy. Dawson has no reason to duck Hopkins, he wins an easy, boring fight if they fight again. Hopkins had no hope in that fight. He simply couldn't get off with hardly anything effective.

[Tam Seddon]

How can anybody actually make an argument for Dawson or Hopkins to be winning when not even 2 rounds were complete, the fight had no action in it what so ever. It would have gone 12 rounds and no doubt it would have been close. I think there is no way Dawson can win off throwing Hopkins to the floor and the evidence shows that Hopkins wasn't faking...there needs to be a rematch to settle this shit because it's not fair on either fighter IMO. No way Dawson in his own head can take that as a win, he's out of his mind if he actually just thinks he's beaten Hopkins. The fight hadn't even started at all.