When Bernard gets his belt back should he give Dawson a rematch ?

[Hulk]

Ignore the troll above.

You dont know shit about boxing, dude, and im not kidding when i say this..

Stop talking about me and keep hopkins' nuts out your mouth..

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Where is Missy when you need her eh....

Why ?

He'll just log in under his other account ViolentDemise.

[EZ E]

Well.. shouldn't it be "IF he gets his title back"?? Personally, I don't believe Hopkins will regain "his" title because he'll lose the rematch IF there is one. Besides, it won't sell, not PPV worthy. Maybe regular HBO will pick it due to the controversy. We can/should expect Suliaman/WBC to get into the act and ORDER an immediate MANDATORY rematch. I foresee Suliaman once again "selling his soul to the devil" and stripping Dawson and fabricate a way to hand it back to Bhops/GBP, that's his style. He didn't hesitate to strip Sergio Martinez to serve it on a silver platter to Chavez Jr and won't think twice about screwing Dawson.

[EZ E]

I wouldn't accuse Bhops of 'quitting' and only he knows how severe his injury was. Yes, he's done worse but that's another story altogether. I surely don't blame Dawson for his reaction or OVER-reaction. He really wanted to win without any controversy. He DIDN'T want to win that way. He really believed in himself. True COMPETITIVE emotion. If we put ourselves in his shoes we might've reacted similarly. right?? think about it. The same way many accuse Dawson of OVER-recating are in fact OVER-reacting THEMSELVES!! Their LACK of in depth ring/competitive IN-experience is clearly showing, IMHO. By the way, I'm not a Dawson fan, never have been. Just keeping it real.

[NuthaPug]

I wouldn't accuse Bhops of 'quitting' and only he knows how severe his injury was. Yes, he's done worse but that's another story altogether. I surely don't blame Dawson for his reaction or OVER-reaction. He really wanted to win without any controversy. He DIDN'T want to win that way. He really believed in himself. True COMPETITIVE emotion. If we put ourselves in his shoes we might've reacted similarly. right?? think about it. The same way many accuse Dawson of OVER-recating are in fact OVER-reacting THEMSELVES!! Their LACK of in depth ring/competitive IN-experience is clearly showing, IMHO. By the way, I'm not a Dawson fan, never have been. Just keeping it real.

Hey guys a newbie. Fairminded and all!

Lost, EZ E?

[EZ E]

I wouldn't accuse Bhops of 'quitting' and only he knows how severe his injury was. Yes, he's done worse but that's another story altogether. I surely don't blame Dawson for his reaction or OVER-reaction. He really wanted to win without any controversy. He DIDN'T want to win that way. He really believed in himself. True COMPETITIVE emotion. If we put ourselves in his shoes we might've reacted similarly. right?? think about it. The same way many accuse Dawson of OVER-recating are in fact OVER-reacting THEMSELVES!! Their LACK of in depth ring/competitive IN-experience is clearly showing, IMHO. By the way, I'm not a Dawson fan, never have been. Just keeping it real.

Hey guys a newbie. Fairminded and all!

Lost, EZ E?

NUTHA PUGGY ahhhh... "Lost"?? Me?? If you only knew, amigo. Yes, I'm new here but been around this game in various capacities for nearly a half century. Newbie? hmmmm... hahahaha!!! Are you ANOTHER of those "experts" that measure their "knowledge" of the game according to how many comments you have posted then you probably don't know to much at all. I'll gladly volunteer to be your mentor, free of charge. Smile. contact me and you'll probably be glad you did. Peace!!

[EZ E]

I wouldn't accuse Bhops of 'quitting' and only he knows how severe his injury was. Yes, he's done worse but that's another story altogether. I surely don't blame Dawson for his reaction or OVER-reaction. He really wanted to win without any controversy. He DIDN'T want to win that way. He really believed in himself. True COMPETITIVE emotion. If we put ourselves in his shoes we might've reacted similarly. right?? think about it. The same way many accuse Dawson of OVER-recating are in fact OVER-reacting THEMSELVES!! Their LACK of in depth ring/competitive IN-experience is clearly showing, IMHO. By the way, I'm not a Dawson fan, never have been. Just keeping it real.

Hey guys a newbie. Fairminded and all!

Lost, EZ E?

I wouldn't accuse Bhops of 'quitting' and only he knows how severe his injury was. Yes, he's done worse but that's another story altogether. I surely don't blame Dawson for his reaction or OVER-reaction. He really wanted to win without any controversy. He DIDN'T want to win that way. He really believed in himself. True COMPETITIVE emotion. If we put ourselves in his shoes we might've reacted similarly. right?? think about it. The same way many accuse Dawson of OVER-recating are in fact OVER-reacting THEMSELVES!! Their LACK of in depth ring/competitive IN-experience is clearly showing, IMHO. By the way, I'm not a Dawson fan, never have been. Just keeping it real.

Hey guys a newbie. Fairminded and all!

Lost, EZ E?

NUTHA PUGGY ahhhh... "Lost"?? Me?? If you only knew, amigo. Yes, I'm new here but been around this game in various capacities for nearly a half century. Newbie? hmmmm... hahahaha!!! Are you ANOTHER of those "experts" that measure their "knowledge" of the game according to how many comments you have posted then you probably don't know to much at all. I'll gladly volunteer to be your mentor, free of charge. Smile. contact me and you'll probably be glad you did. Peace!!

Mr NUTHAPUG By the way, if you wish you can contact me at (emoraler109@yahoo.com) anytime. I'm probably offering you a chance in a lifetime opportunity to enrich your love for the the fight game in many ways. I BS you not. If you know top boxing authors/writers like Ted Sares, Bill Fitch, Jim Amato ask them about EZ E.

[Galaxy]

No, he should just ignore him completely until he either beats Pascal or a rematch is wanted by fans

[ElTerribleMorales]

just as sure that the Sun will come up, you can always count on Taeth to chime in and troll on anyone who doesn't think that one of his boyfriends was dominating a fight that he CLEARLY wasn't, to say that Hopkins (a known slow starter) had no answer to Dawson's "attack" from just watching a round and a half of "action" is a fucking joke, IMO Hopkins won the first and Dawson was edging the second up until the slam, the fact that Dawson resorted to slamming Hopkins then later went on to act all heated up just shows how much Hopkins was getting to the guy mentally, given his actions he's not too different from Ortiz cause he let frustration get to him and did a blatant foul

if Hopkins wouldn't have gotten injured from it the fine whatever, a warning then fight on, but the fact that Hopkins DID GET INJURED, AND SERIOUSLY INJURED AT THAT, and the fact that it happened before the 4th merits that it be ruled a NC

doesn't matter how you try to spin it Dawson fucked up, and is lucky that they're only pursuing a NC and not a DQ cause that could very well apply in this situation, and i dunno if it's just me, if a guy that i'm sure i can beat just robbed me of a career defining fight (at least that's how his retarded as put it), i'd be the first one calling for a rematch i wouldn't be saying "rematch?!?! hell no i'm not given him a rematch"

[Rantcatrat]

just as sure that the Sun will come up, you can always count on Taeth to chime in and troll on anyone who doesn't think that one of his boyfriends was dominating a fight that he CLEARLY wasn't, to say that Hopkins (a known slow starter) had no answer to Dawson's "attack" from just watching a round and a half of "action" is a fucking joke, IMO Hopkins won the first and Dawson was edging the second up until the slam, the fact that Dawson resorted to slamming Hopkins then later went on to act all heated up just shows how much Hopkins was getting to the guy mentally, given his actions he's not too different from Ortiz cause he let frustration get to him and did a blatant foul

if Hopkins wouldn't have gotten injured from it the fine whatever, a warning then fight on, but the fact that Hopkins DID GET INJURED, AND SERIOUSLY INJURED AT THAT, and the fact that it happened before the 4th merits that it be ruled a NC

doesn't matter how you try to spin it Dawson fucked up, and is lucky that they're only pursuing a NC and not a DQ cause that could very well apply in this situation, and i dunno if it's just me, if a guy that i'm sure i can beat just robbed me of a career defining fight (at least that's how his retarded as put it), i'd be the first one calling for a rematch i wouldn't be saying "rematch?!?! hell no i'm not given him a rematch"

I had Dawson winning the first and second rounds up until the body slam and I thought either way you had the rounds, it appeared Bernard was going to have problems with Dawson's speed and size. Dawson looked a good amount bigger than Bernard in there. Certainly, there is no way to know and in fact you saw something different.

What I thought I saw was Bernard leaning over Chad in a somewhat dirty fashion to put his weight on Chad and Chad then nudging him off. Then to buy more time Bernard wouldn't get up (which would be par for the course for Bernard fights). My question is: since it was only the 2nd round, and they could stop it before the 4th on the body slam, why didn't Bernard just get up and fight on and see how his shoulder felt after a round or two? Why did he say he wouldn't continue? I think what he actually said was something like "with one arm" as if to say no I can't.

[ElTerribleMorales]

just as sure that the Sun will come up, you can always count on Taeth to chime in and troll on anyone who doesn't think that one of his boyfriends was dominating a fight that he CLEARLY wasn't, to say that Hopkins (a known slow starter) had no answer to Dawson's "attack" from just watching a round and a half of "action" is a fucking joke, IMO Hopkins won the first and Dawson was edging the second up until the slam, the fact that Dawson resorted to slamming Hopkins then later went on to act all heated up just shows how much Hopkins was getting to the guy mentally, given his actions he's not too different from Ortiz cause he let frustration get to him and did a blatant foul

if Hopkins wouldn't have gotten injured from it the fine whatever, a warning then fight on, but the fact that Hopkins DID GET INJURED, AND SERIOUSLY INJURED AT THAT, and the fact that it happened before the 4th merits that it be ruled a NC

doesn't matter how you try to spin it Dawson fucked up, and is lucky that they're only pursuing a NC and not a DQ cause that could very well apply in this situation, and i dunno if it's just me, if a guy that i'm sure i can beat just robbed me of a career defining fight (at least that's how his retarded as put it), i'd be the first one calling for a rematch i wouldn't be saying "rematch?!?! hell no i'm not given him a rematch"

I had Dawson winning the first and second rounds up until the body slam and I thought either way you had the rounds, it appeared Bernard was going to have problems with Dawson's speed and size. Dawson looked a good amount bigger than Bernard in there. Certainly, there is no way to know and in fact you saw something different.

What I thought I saw was Bernard leaning over Chad in a somewhat dirty fashion to put his weight on Chad and Chad then nudging him off. Then to buy more time Bernard wouldn't get up (which would be par for the course for Bernard fights). My question is: since it was only the 2nd round, and they could stop it before the 4th on the body slam, why didn't Bernard just get up and fight on and see how his shoulder felt after a round or two? Why did he say he wouldn't continue? I think what he actually said was something like "with one arm" as if to say no I can't.

the ref asked him, Can you continue, the first thing out his mouth was yes

and you can't have it both ways, how would Hopkins "putting his weight on Dawson" affect him at all if as you said Dawson seemed like the bigger fighter, Chad was simply frustrated with Hopkins defense and awkward style and was looking to vent so he slammed him then went on to make a bigger ass of himself parading around the ring like if he actually won the championship, to really break it down, the slam and Dawson's wannabe gangster act at the end of the fight is the only time that his ass has acted "Bad", the dude has a giant shit stain running across his record and his rep

[Rantcatrat]

I had Dawson winning the first and second rounds up until the body slam and I thought either way you had the rounds, it appeared Bernard was going to have problems with Dawson's speed and size. Dawson looked a good amount bigger than Bernard in there. Certainly, there is no way to know and in fact you saw something different.

What I thought I saw was Bernard leaning over Chad in a somewhat dirty fashion to put his weight on Chad and Chad then nudging him off. Then to buy more time Bernard wouldn't get up (which would be par for the course for Bernard fights). My question is: since it was only the 2nd round, and they could stop it before the 4th on the body slam, why didn't Bernard just get up and fight on and see how his shoulder felt after a round or two? Why did he say he wouldn't continue? I think what he actually said was something like "with one arm" as if to say no I can't.

the ref asked him, Can you continue, the first thing out his mouth was yes

and you can't have it both ways, how would Hopkins "putting his weight on Dawson" affect him at all if as you said Dawson seemed like the bigger fighter, Chad was simply frustrated with Hopkins defense and awkward style and was looking to vent so he slammed him then went on to make a bigger ass of himself parading around the ring like if he actually won the championship, to really break it down, the slam and Dawson's wannabe gangster act at the end of the fight is the only time that his ass has acted "Bad", the dude has a giant shit stain running across his record and his rep

I think you can have it both ways. They both weighed in at 175+ for the fight and a 175 pound man leaning on you will have an effect over the course of the fight. I agree Dawson was intent on imposing his will on Hopkins and showing Hopkins that he wouldn't allow him to fight dirty. I believe that is why what happened, happened,

Don't forget Hopkins didn't want the Dawson fight for a few years. There is no doubt about that. Many people at the time considered it a duck job. Dawson was calling out Hopkins and Hopkins wasn't answering.

If the referree didn't allow him to continue the fight when he wanted to, then that is the ref's bad, not Dawson's.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I had Dawson winning the first and second rounds up until the body slam and I thought either way you had the rounds, it appeared Bernard was going to have problems with Dawson's speed and size. Dawson looked a good amount bigger than Bernard in there. Certainly, there is no way to know and in fact you saw something different.

What I thought I saw was Bernard leaning over Chad in a somewhat dirty fashion to put his weight on Chad and Chad then nudging him off. Then to buy more time Bernard wouldn't get up (which would be par for the course for Bernard fights). My question is: since it was only the 2nd round, and they could stop it before the 4th on the body slam, why didn't Bernard just get up and fight on and see how his shoulder felt after a round or two? Why did he say he wouldn't continue? I think what he actually said was something like "with one arm" as if to say no I can't.

the ref asked him, Can you continue, the first thing out his mouth was yes

and you can't have it both ways, how would Hopkins "putting his weight on Dawson" affect him at all if as you said Dawson seemed like the bigger fighter, Chad was simply frustrated with Hopkins defense and awkward style and was looking to vent so he slammed him then went on to make a bigger ass of himself parading around the ring like if he actually won the championship, to really break it down, the slam and Dawson's wannabe gangster act at the end of the fight is the only time that his ass has acted "Bad", the dude has a giant shit stain running across his record and his rep

I think you can have it both ways. They both weighed in at 175+ for the fight and a 175 pound man leaning on you will have an effect over the course of the fight. I agree Dawson was intent on imposing his will on Hopkins and showing Hopkins that he wouldn't allow him to fight dirty.

Don't forget Hopkins didn't want the Dawson fight for a few years. There is no doubt about that. Many people at the time considered it a duck job. Dawson was calling out Hopkins and Hopkins wasn't answering.

If the referree didn't allow him to continue the fight when he wanted to, then that is the ref's bad, not Dawson's.

look at Hopkins record and since when has he had the habit of ducking anyone?

he didn't fight Dawson after he got schooled by Pascal because he chose to go after the guy who did the schooling, which IMO is a bigger risk than fighting the guy who had just lost, and i dunno what fight you were watching cause NEITHER GUY IMPOSED ANYTHING IN A ROUND AND A HALF

and yes, Dawson does deserve blame and to be scrutinized because ultimately it was his actions that cut the night short, and he's getting bashed more so for his actions and behavior after the fight more than anything, he's not the first fighter to have someone lean on them after missing a shot, Floyd does it all the time, so does Wlad, so does Dawson who has held onto plenty of opponents after throwing two or three shots, hell he even did it against Diaconu, it's completely ridiculous that Hopkins is the one being blamed specifically for this fight when he's the one who was screwed, him being a dirty fighter in past fights has nothing to do with the result of this, when did Hopkins ever get a TKO win from slamming an opponent? when did Hopkins get a TKO win from a foul period? if it was that Dawson fought like Hopkins and maybe held and hit his was to a UD then there wouldn't be an uproar, but the fact is that the guy "won" the Light Heavyweight Title in Boxing while practicing MMA