and from what i've seen you're neither, cause you don't have to like Hopkins to realize that's he's one of the best technicians of the last 15 yrs, you don't accomplish what the man has by being as you put it "shit"
20 title defenses at Middleweight, jumps up 2 divisions and dominates the Lineal Champ (Tarver) when he was a massive underdog, loses a controversial decision to Calzaghe, then goes on to again dominate the younger undefeated fighter while being a massive underdog, looks like shit against Ornelas and Jones Jr, then beats the shit out of Pascal TWICE, both times going in as the underdog
you don't have W's against the likes of the following names and if you can't fight for shit
John David Jackson
Glen Johnson
Simon Brown
Robert Allen
Antwun Echols
Felix Trinidad
William Joppy
Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Tarver
Winky Wright
Kelly Pavlik
Roy Jones Jr
Jean Pascal


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well there a boxing fan's and Hopshit fan's great boxer my;
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