Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

[Mars_ax]

November 12th

I think people are underestimating JMM somewhat, i agree Manny Pacquiao is the favourite. But JMM arguably beat Manny Pacquiao twice so i don't think it will be one sided, i still think JMM gives Manny Pacquiao stylistic problems.

But its the age and moving up in weight im worried about, i just hope my boy JMM gives a good account of himself which im sure he will. He's a warrior and doesn't duck anyone and IMO beat Manny Pacquiao twice.

Marquez is tough little SOB, there's no doubt about it, and he gave Manny fits in the first 2 fights. The thing is, Pacquiao has improved light-years since 2008, and JMM has not, i'm seeing a one-sided beatdown in this one and the ref or Marquez' corner stopping it somewhere after the 8th round.

Or is that he's been given opponents that make him look that way ? have you noticed all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have all been come forward fighters ? that's not the style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao.

Guy's like Margarito, Hatton, are cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao, i don't really think Manny Pacquiao has improved since he destroyed David Diaz at Lightweight.

I've got to disagree with you there, Pacquiao has improved immensely since he started moving up in weight, especially his power and skill level.

[ICB]

November 12th

I think people are underestimating JMM somewhat, i agree Manny Pacquiao is the favourite. But JMM arguably beat Manny Pacquiao twice so i don't think it will be one sided, i still think JMM gives Manny Pacquiao stylistic problems.

But its the age and moving up in weight im worried about, i just hope my boy JMM gives a good account of himself which im sure he will. He's a warrior and doesn't duck anyone and IMO beat Manny Pacquiao twice.

Marquez is tough little SOB, there's no doubt about it, and he gave Manny fits in the first 2 fights. The thing is, Pacquiao has improved light-years since 2008, and JMM has not, i'm seeing a one-sided beatdown in this one and the ref or Marquez' corner stopping it somewhere after the 8th round.

Or is that he's been given opponents that make him look that way ? have you noticed all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have all been come forward fighters ? that's not the style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao.

Guy's like Margarito, Hatton, are cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao, i don't really think Manny Pacquiao has improved since he destroyed David Diaz at Lightweight.

I've got to disagree with you there, Pacquiao has improved immensely since he started moving up in weight, especially in his power and skill level.

Has he though ? he knocked out Hatton i'll give you that, but Hatton had no defence and was being rocked by former Lightweight's like Lazcano. I just think Manny Pacquiao is so much faster than his opponents that he overwhelms them, i don't think his power is any real better than when he beat up David Diaz.

The style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao is a counter punching style, not someone who comes forward looking to exchange punches. Which is what all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have been since JMM, i think its style issue here.

[Mars_ax]

November 12th

Marquez is tough little SOB, there's no doubt about it, and he gave Manny fits in the first 2 fights. The thing is, Pacquiao has improved light-years since 2008, and JMM has not, i'm seeing a one-sided beatdown in this one and the ref or Marquez' corner stopping it somewhere after the 8th round.

Or is that he's been given opponents that make him look that way ? have you noticed all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have all been come forward fighters ? that's not the style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao.

Guy's like Margarito, Hatton, are cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao, i don't really think Manny Pacquiao has improved since he destroyed David Diaz at Lightweight.

I've got to disagree with you there, Pacquiao has improved immensely since he started moving up in weight, especially in his power and skill level.

Has he though ? he knocked out Hatton i'll give you that, but Hatton had no defence and was being rocked by former Lightweight's like Lazcano. I just think Manny Pacquiao is so much faster than his opponents that he overwhelms them, i don't think his power is any real better than when he beat up David Diaz.

The style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao is a counter punching style, not someone who comes forward looking to exchange punches. Which is what all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have been since JMM, i think its style issue here.

I'm not trying to argue, but you don't think blasting out Hatton, busting up Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito (all bigger men) showed an improvement in Pacquiao's power?

[ICB]

November 12th

Marquez is tough little SOB, there's no doubt about it, and he gave Manny fits in the first 2 fights. The thing is, Pacquiao has improved light-years since 2008, and JMM has not, i'm seeing a one-sided beatdown in this one and the ref or Marquez' corner stopping it somewhere after the 8th round.

Or is that he's been given opponents that make him look that way ? have you noticed all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have all been come forward fighters ? that's not the style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao.

Guy's like Margarito, Hatton, are cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao, i don't really think Manny Pacquiao has improved since he destroyed David Diaz at Lightweight.

I've got to disagree with you there, Pacquiao has improved immensely since he started moving up in weight, especially in his power and skill level.

Has he though ? he knocked out Hatton i'll give you that, but Hatton had no defence and was being rocked by former Lightweight's like Lazcano. I just think Manny Pacquiao is so much faster than his opponents that he overwhelms them, i don't think his power is any real better than when he beat up David Diaz.

The style that trouble's Manny Pacquiao is a counter punching style, not someone who comes forward looking to exchange punches. Which is what all of Manny Pacquiao's opponents have been since JMM, i think its style issue here.

I'm not trying to argue, but you don't think blasting out Hatton, busting up Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito (all bigger men) showed an improvement in Pacquiao's power?

I just think he was so much faster, i mean anyone would get busted up. Being hit over 300+ times and Margarito got hit i just checked 474 times. It's the speed difference not the power so much.

[CFH]

Pacquiao by mid-round knockout in a surprisingly one-sided fight. Marquez is done.

[FinitoElDinamita]

" pac improved light years since 08 " thats the silliest thing ive heard on awhile. No, he didnt improve that much. Hes pretty much the same guy. He only looks better now because hes fighting bigger guys who cant handle his speed.


And no, its not not going to be one sided.

[Mars_ax]

" pac improved light years since 08 " thats the silliest thing ive heard on awhile. No, he didnt improve that much. Hes pretty much the same guy. He only looks better now because hes fighting bigger guys who cant handle his speed.


And no, its not not going to be one sided.

If you think that's silliest thing you've heard in a while, you must not read your own posts. You sound like a wannabe LA street thug, who likes to stir up shit on this forum, good luck with that shit homie.

It's not "silly" to believe that Pacquiao has improved immensely in all areas of his game the last 4 or 5 years or he wouldn't be handling these bigger pugs with ease that he does.