Bert Sugar on Mike Tyson, his legacy and chances against the Klitchko's

[Rantcatrat]

Wlad and Vitali have better legacies, I think. The longer the fight went Tyson's chances decrease.

[erics44]

flippin ek i agree with virtually everything he said

Wlad and Vitali have better legacies, I think. The longer the fight went Tyson's chances decrease.

I dont know weather i agree with this tho, well it depends what you mean by lagacy, in 30 years time the average man will still be raving about the tyson period but only really boxing fans will know anything about klits era

just like with the holmes era now, the average man knows Ali and Tyson and nothing in between

p.s. its not that ali and tyson would beat the klits, i dont think they would stand much chance, its just their eras and styles and charactors were miles more exciting and worth remembering

[Master]

Bert Oh Bert what a plank.

The heavyweight division is do do, you just cannot say anything else about the division and level of opposition.

[brocktonblockbust]

finally watched the bloody Ssugar clip. What a piece he is.......but I like him. Aand he's got it basically right.

[El Kabong]

finally watched the bloody Ssugar clip. What a piece he is.......but I like him. Aand he's got it basically right.

You WOULD think that wouldn't you

"Mike Tyson's uppercuts would take their heads off"....yes, because the Klitschko's are ALWAYS getting hit with uppercuts. Bert is a caricature of what boxing pundits used to be, he's got the fedora, the stogey, and the raspy voice but the ONLY thing that matters to him is the past.

How would Wlad or Vitali fair vs Tyson? Objectively they seem pretty even match ups with the height and reach and weight going decisively in favor of the Klitschko's. True Mike Tyson could slip and counter his way inside with the best of them but the Cus D'Mato style had its flaws....namely tall fighters who controlled distance and sure Tyson got passed a right good few decent fighters like that, but its not as if he breezed his way through his entire career. Vitali I'm certain beats Tyson, the man never give up the body, he's extremely hard to catch flush and even when you do he won't go down. Wladimir has a 50/50 shot vs Tyson, 90/10 after round 5 just because once Wlad gets in rhythm he is a punisher, he makes guys quit and ....well truth be told, in those situations Tyson quit. The Klitschko's won't get their dues til after they retire and maybe then people will realize how damn great those guys are.

There's not 1 guy that Tyson beat that Wlad or Vitali couldn't beat.

[ross]

finally watched the bloody Ssugar clip. What a piece he is.......but I like him. Aand he's got it basically right.

You WOULD think that wouldn't you

"Mike Tyson's uppercuts would take their heads off"....yes, because the Klitschko's are ALWAYS getting hit with uppercuts. Bert is a caricature of what boxing pundits used to be, he's got the fedora, the stogey, and the raspy voice but the ONLY thing that matters to him is the past.

How would Wlad or Vitali fair vs Tyson? Objectively they seem pretty even match ups with the height and reach and weight going decisively in favor of the Klitschko's. True Mike Tyson could slip and counter his way inside with the best of them but the Cus D'Mato style had its flaws....namely tall fighters who controlled distance and sure Tyson got passed a right good few decent fighters like that, but its not as if he breezed his way through his entire career. Vitali I'm certain beats Tyson, the man never give up the body, he's extremely hard to catch flush and even when you do he won't go down. Wladimir has a 50/50 shot vs Tyson, 90/10 after round 5 just because once Wlad gets in rhythm he is a punisher, he makes guys quit and ....well truth be told, in those situations Tyson quit. The Klitschko's won't get their dues til after they retire and maybe then people will realize how damn great those guys are.

There's not 1 guy that Tyson beat that Wlad or Vitali couldn't beat.

Sanders put Vitali down!

Both Vitali and Wladimir panic when pressured they just javent had the competition. Wladimir doesnt come on strong his opponents lose heart. Thete os a misconception about Mike that he lost fpcis as a fight wore on. Like I said, look at the Tucker fight, a man that is more skilled than either Klitschko and watch how Mike beat him very comfortably. Who have either Klitschko beaten that is as good as Tyson? They havent and wont because the skill isnt out there. Vitali had his chance against an old Lewis.

[piye]

Tyson beats both brothers comfortably let's not overate these guys due to lack of competition! Both brothers are very good however no point debating that anymore but neither beats tyson.