Old mongoose toney is gonna beat lebedev's sorry ass.
Old mongoose toney is gonna beat lebedev's sorry ass.
Wow! I'm interested to see him fight now
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Like him or loath him James Toney's move from MW to HW and being competitive is amazing.
He is a GREAT fighter for sure.
Toney looks to be in grand fettle. You can tell that he knows is the end of career last hurrah and it's so good to see him looking as though he is taking it seriously for the first time in too long a time.
Apparently Toney is the big underdog in this one and appearances can always be deceptive, but if Toney is anything as good as we have known him to be I can very well see him stopping Lebedev.
I actually had a dream last night where Toney was clobbering someone in the early rounds, so hopefully this is a sign that I have become psychic.
I am very excited about this fight and there appears to be a decent card too. It's looking like an opportunity for me to watch boxing AND drink! That doesn't happen very often. I hope Toney will be able to match my evening posting form.
When has anyone lost that much weight and not been a complete shell on fight night?
A serious look at Toney to get sparked is in order....
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Normally I would agree with you but this is pure fat loss here. Its not like a scenario like Roy when he moved back down from heavy to light heavy or something. Losing a shitload of fat off your frame can only be a good thing. Its not like hes gona be ripped at 200lbs, just a more healthy weight instead of a tub of goo.
IF and thats IF Toney has lost that weight in a very short time frame however, that will affect him negatively. He will be weak as shit. But from what I hear thats not been the case but no way of knowing for sure I suppose.
Are there any comparisons that can be made as to when other fighters have done this? I cant recall any shedding a shitload of fat to gauge it.
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Who Knows? Im not getting all nostalgic hoping for something that might result in Fensters way of thinking.. The Toney that beat Holyfield was tremendous. This guy could pull a chris Byrd and get mopped. Good on Toney for deciding to treat his body right other than that i will be CAUTIOUSLY optimistic.
If he looks good, somehow a Toney vs Hopkins is an absolute must. Even if the fight was predicted to stink to the high heavens. It will sell great and Im watching!
Anyone notice what his T-shirt said? Poke at Haye maybe.
I would like to see some sparring of him with the weight loss too
Happy that he gets back in shape. However, to me, it's a matter of too little too late. Toney's in his mid 40 and didn'T have a Hopkins spartan life. TO me it's too late and though it's pleasant to see, he's no more relevant to boxing.
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Toney looks in great shape.
For me though, this has what happened to Chris Byrd moving down to light heavyweight written all over it.
Byrd dropped from heavyweight to light heavyweight. He looked in great shape until he got in the ring. He ended up getting stopped late in the fight.
Some fans don't seem to realise that Toney is shot. the guy is 43 and has looked terrible in recent bouts. Some fans blame it on him being seriously overweight but i think the weight issue is an old arguement.
His weight used to be the problem but now it's just a case of his age catching up to him.
I think Lebedev is gonna outwork him clearly. Toney's defense will get him through the fight but he will look terrible.
First thing I thought when I saw this vid..and I hope it doesn't go that way. Toney is just a different breed. He was born for this so hopefully the weight loss doesn't hamper him..heck, it can't hamper him anymore than the fat did!
It can either go the way Fenster thought or he's gonna look awesome!! Definitely up for a Hopkins/Toney encounter. Would be mouth-watering but those who aren't big fans of skills and wit being displayed should look away now.
If he is able to outmaneuver Lebedev its going to be a long shameful night for the Russian.
I ownder if it was the humbling in the octagon that convinced James to take sport seriously again. He always had fast hands but if he has quick feet aswel he will be a hard guy to beat. We know he has a huge edge in class already so the only question is as someone else already mentioned has he lost the wieght sensibly or are we going to see and old weight drained man on Saturday.
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