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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.

    that is very easy to say

    were you around in the srl era to really asses?

    leanard lost to a man naturally a couiple fo weights below him, i really couldnt see that ever happening to jones
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.

    that is very easy to say

    were you around in the srl era to really asses?

    leanard lost to a man naturally a couiple fo weights below him, i really couldnt see that ever happening to jones
    Jones has alot in his favour too. First man and only man, to move up from middleweight to heavyweight and capture titles on his way up, voted fighter of the decade, and held more titles than anyone else at one time.

    End of the day ya can only beat whats put in front of you. Leonard was fortunate he was around at a time when we had several other greats to compare him against and each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.

    that is very easy to say

    were you around in the srl era to really asses?

    leanard lost to a man naturally a couiple fo weights below him, i really couldnt see that ever happening to jones
    Jones has alot in his favour too. First man and only man, to move up from middleweight to heavyweight and capture titles on his way up, voted fighter of the decade, and held more titles than anyone else at one time.

    End of the day ya can only beat whats put in front of you. Leonard was fortunate he was around at a time when we had several other greats to compare him against and each other.
    and you really only had so many greats because of the lack of interest in the heavies

    everyone turned to the lower weights for the entertainment

    im not saying they werent great fighters who had great battles im just saying they are better remembered and got more exposure because nobody cared for the big fellas
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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Jones era was kinda weak and he was able to get some great wins like Tony and Bernard but besides that not to many stand outs really. I guess i could put a list of names that were dominated in weak eras.

    that is very easy to say

    were you around in the srl era to really asses?

    leanard lost to a man naturally a couiple fo weights below him, i really couldnt see that ever happening to jones
    Jones has alot in his favour too. First man and only man, to move up from middleweight to heavyweight and capture titles on his way up, voted fighter of the decade, and held more titles than anyone else at one time.

    End of the day ya can only beat whats put in front of you. Leonard was fortunate he was around at a time when we had several other greats to compare him against and each other.
    and you really only had so many greats because of the lack of interest in the heavies

    everyone turned to the lower weights for the entertainment

    im not saying they werent great fighters who had great battles im just saying they are better remembered and got more exposure because nobody cared for the big fellas
    I think after the 'golden era' hvys were coming off of they were due for a let down. But at the end of the day credit to Leonard, Hearns, Duran and company...they were just that good. I think they would demand the spotlight in any era.
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    Lots of things saw the exposure, massive was the explosion of 'free' network coverage every weekend. Leonard was basically a free agent early on bouncing around where Jones hit big prominence and literally became a one network man. Both rode the early Olympic hype & medals out of respected years but Leonard and company also saw the boycott of 80, which may have helped keep focus on them.
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    Default Re: Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

    It was definately a cracking mix of top level fighters all there at thee same time and kind of headlined by leonard

    Im not denying that

    If pac and mayweather would of got it on a couple of times and there was maybe another fighter in the mix then maybe we would have that kind of situation now

    Like you say tho the olympics, the boycott, the tv, the lack of heavies, the mix of fighters, the comeback by leonard, rocky balboa, all made it a very rememberable era and that will influence the vast majority of people to vote srl when asked this question

    And perhaps he deserves it for his contribution, lb4lb tho id say jones would have taken it peak v peak

    Jones was awesome, was leonard ever quite as awesome?
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