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    Default Re: Check out this slimmed down James Toney!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I could understand all this apprehensive talk IF Toney were fighting someone like Steve Cunningham, David Haye, Thomas Adamek, or Tarver at cruiser.

    But, he's NOT.

    He's fighting Dennis Lebedev, who is about on par with Danny Green, maybe not even that good.

    Toney should be fine I think. He better let his hands go tho or he could get outworked, def not in any danger of being hurt or stopped.
    Don't forget that Lebedev went tooth and nails with Marco Huck (the number one ranked cruiserweight) losing a split decision that I frankly thought could have gone either way. Lebedev is better than Danny Green. Come on. He's much better than Danny Green. Out of the current cruiserweights, he should be ranked behind Cunningham (although I've seen a decline in Cunningham recently) and Huck clearly, and maybe behind Tarver, maybe not, and above Wlod and Green. Now all that said, I pretty much consider Lebedev an one-handed fighter - just a southpaw with a huge left hand. Toney may be able to neutralize that and win, but a fight is 12 rounds and Lebedev has gone 12 rounds twice recently.
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    Default Re: Check out this slimmed down James Toney!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I could understand all this apprehensive talk IF Toney were fighting someone like Steve Cunningham, David Haye, Thomas Adamek, or Tarver at cruiser.

    But, he's NOT.

    He's fighting Dennis Lebedev, who is about on par with Danny Green, maybe not even that good.

    Toney should be fine I think. He better let his hands go tho or he could get outworked, def not in any danger of being hurt or stopped.
    Don't forget that Lebedev went tooth and nails with Marco Huck (the number one ranked cruiserweight) losing a split decision that I frankly thought could have gone either way. Lebedev is better than Danny Green. Come on. He's much better than Danny Green. Out of the current cruiserweights, he should be ranked behind Cunningham (although I've seen a decline in Cunningham recently) and Huck clearly, and maybe behind Tarver, maybe not, and above Wlod and Green. Now all that said, I pretty much consider Lebedev an one-handed fighter - just a southpaw with a huge left hand. Toney may be able to neutralize that and win, but a fight is 12 rounds and Lebedev has gone 12 rounds twice recently.
    Until the last couple years I'd never heard of Marco Huck, and I've never seen him fight on American TV or period. He may very well be the #1 cruiser, but thats with Adamek and Haye outta the division.

    His name makes me think of Mighty Mo and Mark Hunt from MMA.
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    Default Re: Check out this slimmed down James Toney!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I could understand all this apprehensive talk IF Toney were fighting someone like Steve Cunningham, David Haye, Thomas Adamek, or Tarver at cruiser.

    But, he's NOT.

    He's fighting Dennis Lebedev, who is about on par with Danny Green, maybe not even that good.

    Toney should be fine I think. He better let his hands go tho or he could get outworked, def not in any danger of being hurt or stopped.
    Don't forget that Lebedev went tooth and nails with Marco Huck (the number one ranked cruiserweight) losing a split decision that I frankly thought could have gone either way. Lebedev is better than Danny Green. Come on. He's much better than Danny Green. Out of the current cruiserweights, he should be ranked behind Cunningham (although I've seen a decline in Cunningham recently) and Huck clearly, and maybe behind Tarver, maybe not, and above Wlod and Green. Now all that said, I pretty much consider Lebedev an one-handed fighter - just a southpaw with a huge left hand. Toney may be able to neutralize that and win, but a fight is 12 rounds and Lebedev has gone 12 rounds twice recently.
    Until the last couple years I'd never heard of Marco Huck, and I've never seen him fight on American TV or period. He may very well be the #1 cruiser, but thats with Adamek and Haye outta the division.

    His name makes me think of Mighty Mo and Mark Hunt from MMA.
    Lebedev is decent & I don't think Toney will have a completely easy time of it. But if Toney has a smidge of anything left he should be able to handle him
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