"Floyd is Boring" - Why do you think so?

[p4pking]

I would have preferred that as well of course, but Ortiz was the one who threw boxing out the window really imo.. Very few pro's are going to feel obligated to play nice with a guy who is headbutting like that, and fwiw given Ortiz mental breakdown with the kissing and shit afterwards I don't think he would've been in the fight much longer anyways. The first fight with Peter was great, and that was the last good fight of Toney's to which I was referring. Lebedev is really just tough and crude, not a patch on Toney skill wise; the odds on that one puzzle me even despite Toney's looking so poor for a few years. Makes me wonder(though I hope not) if the weight loss hasn't done Toney any good. I've only seen that clip of him hitting mitts, but obviously the bookies will have an idea of how he's been holding up in sparring etc. 6 to 1, given the disparity in talent is quite odd to me.

[Gandalf]

I would have preferred that as well of course, but Ortiz was the one who threw boxing out the window really imo.. Very few pro's are going to feel obligated to play nice with a guy who is headbutting like that, and fwiw given Ortiz mental breakdown with the kissing and shit afterwards I don't think he would've been in the fight much longer anyways. The first fight with Peter was great, and that was the last good fight of Toney's to which I was referring. Lebedev is really just tough and crude, not a patch on Toney skill wise; the odds on that one puzzle me even despite Toney's looking so poor for a few years. Makes me wonder(though I hope not) if the weight loss hasn't done Toney any good. I've only seen that clip of him hitting mitts, but obviously the bookies will have an idea of how he's been holding up in sparring etc. 6 to 1, given the disparity in talent is quite odd to me.

Yes, that's a huge price and I can't make head nor tail of it. Lebedev wasn't looking that great against a completely shot Jones Jr and though Toney hasn't done a great deal for a couple of years, he has been hanging with big men who throw big punches. I also think he deserved the win over Rahman in their second fight. He was looking sharp early on in that one and though he struggled a little with Oquendo, I still think he won that fight. His last couple have been gimmies really. Just easy wins over bums.

This is a bit of a step up and I am a little nervous, but I can't wait to see Toney fighting a meaningful fight again.