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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    These is what throwback fighters do.. Lights out mofuckas!!!

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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    Toney may of lost alot of weight and credit to him but he's waited for to long to finally get down.

    Now he's old and past it and losing that much weight at once might come back to haunt him in the ring.

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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    Watching yourself roll around and embarrass yourself will do that to a guy. I like Toney bookoo but what he did here is get in shape and give himself the best chance of looking top calibur...some guys never left that in the first place. Its what ya expect of the greats.

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    In the prediction contest I've picked lebedev UD... Is this weight loss a good or a bad thing for Toney? Is this fight 10 or 12 rounds??

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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    I don't think its like a Chris Byrd thing. That was just unhealthy looking because he wasn't fat to begin with. Toney was fat. But he's still most likely shot (his speech is horrible these days). Regardless, I'll be rooting him on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    In the prediction contest I've picked lebedev UD... Is this weight loss a good or a bad thing for Toney? Is this fight 10 or 12 rounds??

    It's 12 rounds, for the vacant WBA interim cruiserweight title, the fight comes on Friday night, Moscow time, maybe someone can find a stream.

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    I thought the 5/1 odds were an exaggeration but checked and William Hill have him at that. That amazes me. It's the same odds they give Steiglitz to upset Kessler and actually far wider than Ricky Burns to beat Katsidis

    Do the experts really think Kessler and Katsidis are more likely to lose than Lebedev, who has beaten who exactly?

    Lebedev is one ugly lantern jawed dude with a face like an anvil. It's not going to be difficult for a master crafstman like Toney to target that massive chin.

    I think he will carry more power at this weight.

    I fancy a 20 quid accumulator on Groves, Toney, Kessler and Katsidis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I thought the 5/1 odds were an exaggeration but checked and William Hill have him at that. That amazes me. It's the same odds they give Steiglitz to upset Kessler and actually far wider than Ricky Burns to beat Katsidis

    Do the experts really think Kessler and Katsidis are more likely to lose than Lebedev, who has beaten who exactly?

    Lebedev is one ugly lantern jawed dude with a face like an anvil. It's not going to be difficult for a master crafstman like Toney to target that massive chin.

    I think he will carry more power at this weight.

    I fancy a 20 quid accumulator on Groves, Toney, Kessler and Katsidis....
    Yeah, the odds are a stunner. I had always seen it as a pick 'em with me obviously leaning towards Toney. But no, he is seemingly the flat out big odds underdog.

    Come on Toney! JFAT alliance for life! Go and instigate a new cold war by butchering this guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I thought the 5/1 odds were an exaggeration but checked and William Hill have him at that. That amazes me. It's the same odds they give Steiglitz to upset Kessler and actually far wider than Ricky Burns to beat Katsidis

    Do the experts really think Kessler and Katsidis are more likely to lose than Lebedev, who has beaten who exactly?

    Lebedev is one ugly lantern jawed dude with a face like an anvil. It's not going to be difficult for a master crafstman like Toney to target that massive chin.

    I think he will carry more power at this weight.

    I fancy a 20 quid accumulator on Groves, Toney, Kessler and Katsidis....
    Yeah, the odds are a stunner. I had always seen it as a pick 'em with me obviously leaning towards Toney. But no, he is seemingly the flat out big odds underdog.

    Come on Toney! JFAT alliance for life! Go and instigate a new cold war by butchering this guy!
    I'd say it's a pick em too, and thats only bcause we haven't seen Toney in a real Boxing match for a long time and we don't know how he'll react to the weight loss. If he returns to the division as half the man he left it he'll destroy this pretender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    In the prediction contest I've picked lebedev UD... Is this weight loss a good or a bad thing for Toney? Is this fight 10 or 12 rounds??

    It's 12 rounds, for the vacant WBA interim cruiserweight title, the fight comes on Friday night, Moscow time, maybe someone can find a stream.
    Cheers for that, I have no idea if Toney is going to adapt to the weight and in the past when people have lost a significant amount of weight like this it's a miracle to see but they dont perform like they wanted to. I think with Toney being a lot older now and not looking too good of late I just have a feeling he might not be able to adjust over 12 rounds. Think lebedev might take a close fight over 12 rounds. I would love it if Toney rolled back the years and put on a performance though...we shall see.

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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    Toney was 13/2 last week and has steadily been backed. I actually went to see what odds Toney was to get stopped, then couldn't believe he was a 13/2 shot just to win. That completely reversed my thinking on this fight. Roy Jones had it quite close on two of the judges cards last time.

    Toney wont stop him and will struggle to get a PTS win in Russia but is still worth a bet at those odds. The draw at 33/1 is worth a saver.
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    I think we are seeing way to many old fighter's, in the game some one's going to get hurt and that's all we need.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I thought the 5/1 odds were an exaggeration but checked and William Hill have him at that. That amazes me. It's the same odds they give Steiglitz to upset Kessler and actually far wider than Ricky Burns to beat Katsidis

    Do the experts really think Kessler and Katsidis are more likely to lose than Lebedev, who has beaten who exactly?

    Lebedev is one ugly lantern jawed dude with a face like an anvil. It's not going to be difficult for a master crafstman like Toney to target that massive chin.

    I think he will carry more power at this weight.

    I fancy a 20 quid accumulator on Groves, Toney, Kessler and Katsidis....
    Check out the Huck v. Lebedev fight. Lebedev gives a good account of himself there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Toney was 13/2 last week and has steadily been backed. I actually went to see what odds Toney was to get stopped, then couldn't believe he was a 13/2 shot just to win. That completely reversed my thinking on this fight. Roy Jones had it quite close on two of the judges cards last time.

    Toney wont stop him and will struggle to get a PTS win in Russia but is still worth a bet at those odds. The draw at 33/1 is worth a saver.
    The best bet I saw this weekend is the Kastidis by KO props bet on 5 dimes. It was almost even at -116 if I recall correctly.

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    Default re: James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

    fight starts in about an hour.....

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