"El Perro" Angulo vs. James Kirkland - Saturday "Fight Thread"

[armin]

Awesome fight on the first round alone, it needed to be stopped. Angulo was stupid for going balls out in the first round and really shouldn't have been makin that mistake at this point in his career if he had paced himself he coulda stayed fresh and have kirkland in trouble, but props for kirkland hopefully he doesn't all go gangster again thinking its cool to roll with loaded 9ns n shit...

[TitoFan]

I'm ecstatic that Kirkland won. F*cked up the Dog. Sorry for the fans.........HA!!!
Swept the floor with Angulo. They should put the dog collar back on and send him to the vet.
F*ck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CFH]

I'm ecstatic that Kirkland won. F*cked up the Dog. Sorry for the fans.........HA!!!
Swept the floor with Angulo. They should put the dog collar back on and send him to the vet.
F*ck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you have against Angulo? I'm by no means a fan of his and I think he's a fairly mediocre fighter, but I don't see anything particularly objectionable about him.

[TitoFan]

I'm ecstatic that Kirkland won. F*cked up the Dog. Sorry for the fans.........HA!!!
Swept the floor with Angulo. They should put the dog collar back on and send him to the vet.
F*ck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you have against Angulo? I'm by no means a fan of his and I think he's a fairly mediocre fighter, but I don't see anything particularly objectionable about him.

I like his fights.... don't like him. Can't really explain it. Kind of reminds me of Margarito, and that's a strike against him in my own mind. Plus..... I like Kirkland. I'm glad he's back.

[Spicoli]

telling you....the difference also was punch selection and delivery. Kirkland can still be buzzed and caught off straight fast punches. That cannot be 'untrained'

[CFH]

I'm really happy for Kirkland, it's great to see those kind of redemption stories. I still think his chin and defense will let him down, but he can still have a great career.

Angulo on the other hand is exactly who he was before. A slow, extremely limited fighter.

[bcollins]

Good for Kirkland. He probably needs the win more in a way, just to keep him out of trouble. I have to say that was a hell of a first round - even my wife was excited by that!

[captainanddew]

Good for Kirkland. He probably needs the win more in a way, just to keep him out of trouble. I have to say that was a hell of a first round - even my wife was excited by that!

After round 1 where Angulo was exhausted and hurt much more than Kirkland, Kirkland used the jab and boxed effectively at times. He is still too easy to hit and his chin isn't great.

THey need to match him properly. We all know there are matchups that won't be good for him. With such a fun (and vulnerable guy) why not have him against B level guys that make for fun fights. Let him make money and let us enjoy it. He won't be great but he could be so much fun.

[TitoFan]

F*ck the crowd. It's ok to cheer for your hometown boy, but be man enough to appreciate a good fighter and a good fight. They did neither. F*ck 'em.

[Mars_ax]

Awesome fight on the first round alone, it needed to be stopped. Angulo was stupid for going balls out in the first round and really shouldn't have been makin that mistake at this point in his career if he had paced himself he coulda stayed fresh and have kirkland in trouble, but props for kirkland hopefully he doesn't all go gangster again thinking its cool to roll with loaded 9ns n shit...

Really dumb move on Alfredo's part, he punched himself out, and the combination of that and Kirkland coming back and kicking his ass left him out on his feet and/or with little left to defend himself.

In boxing or even in a street fight, it's a cardinal sin not to pace yourself and if you don't, and you shoot your wad, you're basically at the mercy of your opponent.

[captainanddew]

Awesome fight on the first round alone, it needed to be stopped. Angulo was stupid for going balls out in the first round and really shouldn't have been makin that mistake at this point in his career if he had paced himself he coulda stayed fresh and have kirkland in trouble, but props for kirkland hopefully he doesn't all go gangster again thinking its cool to roll with loaded 9ns n shit...

Really dumb move on Alfredo's part, he punched himself out, and the combination of that and Kirkland coming back and kicking his ass left him out on his feet and/or with little left to defend himself.

In boxing or even in a street fight, it's a cardinal sin not to pace yourself and if you don't, and you shoot your wad, you're basically at the mercy of your opponent.

Kirkland was down and it was a short shot that put him on his ass. He was hurt, but his head appeared to be pretty clear. Watching the fight a 2nd time, you can see Angulo landing some good punches in the follow-up, but Kirkland rolled alot of them and partially blocked alot. Having been hurt in fights before he was relatively relaxed with Angulo breathing down his ass.


Angulo never should have thrown that many shots. He threw about 150 punches in the first 2 mins of the fight. Then when Kirkland put him on his ass, his legs were really gone. He was never able to fully recover.

Kirkland fought smart too. He did use the jab to good effect. He didn't go crazy trying to put Angulo away. He just continued to grind him down.

[Violent Demise]

Three things hurt Angulo.

1, Having only fought less than 2 minues in the pass 18 months. His timing was off

2, He punched himself out going for the stoppage

3, The speed difference. Either Angulo is that slow or Kirkland is just that fast. I think it's a little of both

They need to rematch. Having Kirkland relavent again is a good thing