Marble i am confused you put Liston and you put weight on people who dominated eras. as for Langford never seen him fight at all and did he not lose most of big fights at heavy. I think Tyson and Holyfield both had a most dominate period as champs and both better wins then Liston did as well it seems you favor the old quite some as well nothing wrong with that. Quick question what would you rank the brothers since i can't think of time were a champ was as dominate as those guys are.