calm down Mick , i think all the purists know JMM is a great fighter to.
No can do Al...
Its not even about the fight like I said.
It's more of those particular people here who made fun and dragged down the Marquez name that's what I'm on about.
The people who said he was done the people who said Pac would knock him out into another dimension those people.
Went into this fight hoping manny would knock marquez out in rounds 7 to 12. Even made a bet with a friend who I thought had absolutely no idea what boxing was all about (was a girl, said manny would lose.. i know.. I'm a terrible human being). Now I'm down somewhere around $10 and my ego seriously bruised. Marquez, what a hell of a fighter.
I just think that the same way I had to read all those comments of people dragging Marquez name down and calling him shit they should also now read my comments...![]()
I thought Juan was the underdog on weight and age in this.
Always on his side though.
But I called the fight exactly if you look back about 2 days ago you'll see I said if he boxes and stays in control and doesn't lose his head he can outbox him.
Said the same as what ICB said, Pac hasnt changed as a fighter...hes just had good run stylistically. JMM counter punching and timing is his kryptonite. Never doubted JMM for one second.
Here you go; my last comment from Marquez will win post.
I agree with all that and its probably the way it will go,but I reckon Juan is the better boxer. If he has done his homework and has really thought this out we may see a totally different style of fight from him. He may look to break up the timing and counter in between. He get caught when goes right at it so he may adjust for that in this last fight.
Mick - I'm with you 100%. I didn't understand how these posters were writing JMM off so quickly after the first two fights between these guys were so close. It didn't make sense to me. This had close fight written all over it.
I was pulling for JMM all the way, I had him an underdog for thr same reasons as Andre.
This blew up in Arum. Roach and Pacs face. They picked a 38 year old Marquez who got dominated by Floyd at his only trip above 140.
They figured as usual it was a safe bet to put him in with a fighter with highmileage and a big name to keep the great Hype machine going, Pacquiao is bull crap ever since Diaz to the Zombie Delahoya, the already broken and Brutally Knocked out Hatton, Cotto and Margarito to a horribly faded Mosely. I wish people would finally get it
Those sneaky bastards thought that they could erase any doubt from the public outcry of the firm screwing that JMM got in their last fights by making him heavier and older absolutely banking on he lost a few steps. So the phony Myth of Pac would storm him and they would say SEE WE KO'D HIM THE TALK IS OVER!
I hope these frauds keep getting the backlash they deserve. Someone has to finally be bright enough that just because you beat a camaro in a 1/4 mile race dosent make you speed racer when you leave out the detail that the car is a 94 with 135,000 miles on it. These bullshit artists have been doing this for years and Im glad Marquez made them pay
Manny fights a tough fight against Marquez and now he's a fraud? Are you kidding me? This isn't the time to put Manny down. It's the opposite! If Pacquiao had walked through him, everyone on this board would have said "Manny was too big," "he punches too hard," "he's on ped's," "he was cherrypicking because JMM is old" etc. Then he gets into a tough fight with Marquez and people are screaming Pac's a fraud!?! Come on, man. JMM is a legend. He was before this fight. The writing has been on the wall. He only went above 135 once and that was against the best in the world. Losing against Mayweather is no shame. Marquez fans knew he had Pacquiao's number. Pacquiao knew this was going to be a tough fight, which is why he took this training camp more seriously. It doesn't mean any less of his other accomplishments. It means Marquez and Pacquiao make for good damn fights. If you want to put Pacquiao down, drop him in your p4p rankings (which I will be), but he isn't a fraud. Give JMM his due. Geez.
Last edited by Rantcatrat; 11-13-2011 at 02:34 PM.
That is a little extreme but I did feel Manny would have a somewhat easy night against JMM but hey that's boxing. But these old men of boxing are proving alot of people wrong. Styles make fights and JMM has Pacs number. If they fight a 4th time, I'm staying neutral. War JMM
I said that Manny would knock him out, not because JMM was bad or anything but because he was fighting too heavy, I do admit it without problems. However, I never bad mouthed Marquez, I always had tons of respect and admiration for Nacho and the Marquez brothers. Yestereday looked(only saw the fight late through a chopped stream) like a total robbery and it's a real disgrace.
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