JMM's Foot Stomper Trick...

[Gandalf]

so you guys are saying that it's not unusual for a boxer to step on an opponent's foot 7 times in a single fight. Maybe you can back that up with something as concrete because i tried to google it and didn't find any.

Anyway, if you look from were marquez foot came from prior to stepping on pacquiao's foot, it appears that the trajectory is intended. But most of us who commented so far are bias so let's just leave it to those unbias for their interpretation.

:lolatyou:

[Dench]

For me, I can put it this way..

Marquez stepping on pac's foot as he leads to launch a punch AND getting away with it seven times is as laughable as pac winning the fight in the end. That even's up everything.

It might confuse you, but I still stand with my previous claim that Marquez indeed won the fight, that pac has nothing to do with the scorecards (thus calling him a cheat is way off), that Marquez and pac had a very entertaining fight.

Pac never cheated in that fight, he never resorts to dirty tactics, Im not saying Marquez did something dirty. If anyone can convince me that stepping on another fighter's foot is legally accepted in boxing, then I will continue to think that marquez won the fight convincingly.

[Pugilistic]

wow...........

I thought it was common for an Orthadox and southpaw fighter to get their feet caught up occasionally.

Guess not......... Marquez is a dirty fighter, he should be banned and PAcquiao WON !!!

SMFH.

[CutMeMick]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

[ICB]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

He done it in the 2nd fight too, claiming JMM went down twice in the fight. He's a wind up merchant and this is a ridiculous thread. It's common knowledge Southpaw vs Orthodox fighters always step on eachother's feet and clash heads.

It's all about who can step around the lead foot, and get there punches off. Which is exactly what JMM did and that's exactly the basic's your taught for facing a Southpaw, like circling clockwise for example.

[Dench]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

Point of the matter is that the acts of marquez can be a natural occurrence in a fight between ortho-Southpaw which also, can intentionally be used as a tactic - a dirty one so to speak.

Its like saying Headbutts happen occasionally in a fight when two fighter tend to lean forward as they launch their punches. But headbutts can be used as a (dirty) tactics when used intentionally. In fact, you will get a point deduction when you keep on doing that, worse - DQ.

Just because its a natural thing to happen doesnt mean we should overlook it and considered the matter as "validly acceptable".

[CutMeMick]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

He done it in the 2nd fight too, claiming JMM went down twice in the fight. He's a wind up merchant and this is a ridiculous thread. It's common knowledge Southpaw vs Orthodox fighters always step on eachother's feet and clash heads.

It's all about who can step around the lead foot, and get there punches off. Which is exactly what JMM did and that's exactly the basic's your taught for facing a Southpaw, like circling clockwise for example.

That's exactly it...
You want to be the one to stand his ground and be on the outside. It's fucken common boxing knowledge. Boxing 101.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

He done it in the 2nd fight too, claiming JMM went down twice in the fight. He's a wind up merchant and this is a ridiculous thread. It's common knowledge Southpaw vs Orthodox fighters always step on eachother's feet and clash heads.

It's all about who can step around the lead foot, and get there punches off. Which is exactly what JMM did and that's exactly the basic's your taught for facing a Southpaw, like circling clockwise for example.

That's exactly it...
You want to be the one to stand his ground and be on the outside. It's fucken common boxing knowledge. Boxing 101.

ay hermano, you know that it was going to come to this, you know as well as I do that the fanboy's will look for anything to try and get their idol to look like the victim, winner, fill in the blank

[CutMeMick]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

Point of the matter is that the acts of marquez can be a natural occurrence in a fight between ortho-Southpaw which also, can intentionally be used as a tactic - a dirty one so to speak.

Its like saying Headbutts happen occasionally in a fight when two fighter tend to lean forward as they launch their punches. But headbutts can be used as a (dirty) tactics when used intentionally. In fact, you will get a point deduction when you keep on doing that, worse - DQ.

Just because its a natural thing to happen doesnt mean we should overlook it and considered the matter as "validly acceptable".

Good reply...
Now in the 60 fights when have you ever seen JMM resort to dirty tactics?
Go ahead take your time. I'll be waiting?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

It has been confirmed that Marquez is intentionally stepping on Pacquiao's foot to gain advantage in the fight.




Reliable source: Bob Arum



My God, you guys are indeed taking it seriously. It was intended for the Pachaters who had accused Pac to be a drug user without evidence. Geez ......

[Dench]

Ohhh come on...
You guys serious with this?
So now it turns out JMM cheated...


So if that's the case then Pac intentionally spit out his mouth piece to waste time since he was tired.

Someone went thru all that trouble to take snap shots of something we already know happens when an Ortho and a Southy fight...
Has anyone of the people who claim this to be intentional ever boxed/sparred or maybe even played Punch Out?

Point of the matter is that the acts of marquez can be a natural occurrence in a fight between ortho-Southpaw which also, can intentionally be used as a tactic - a dirty one so to speak.

Its like saying Headbutts happen occasionally in a fight when two fighter tend to lean forward as they launch their punches. But headbutts can be used as a (dirty) tactics when used intentionally. In fact, you will get a point deduction when you keep on doing that, worse - DQ.

Just because its a natural thing to happen doesnt mean we should overlook it and considered the matter as "validly acceptable".

Good reply...
Now in the 60 fights when have you ever seen JMM resort to dirty tactics?
Go ahead take your time. I'll be waiting?

I would say I havent seen him fought dirty to anybody. I havent seen marquez resort to dirty tactics prior to his 3rd fight with pac. I acknowledge marquez for being so in his past few fights. But that could spark a startling revelation...

You see, in their previous 2 fights alone, Marquez was not caught more than 2-3 times stepping on pac's foot.. It was on their 3rd fight that he stepped pac's foot 7 times and almost stepped into pac's foot more than 10 occasions.. Why oh why would marquez suddenly stepping into manny's foot in their 3rd fight then? Natural occurrence perhaps. Like rain in Sahara.

On pac's side, all his 4 previous fights were against an Orthodox fighter, but I have no recollection (execpt Clottey fight -- wherein Buboy is telling Manny to watch his feet.) that those four stepped into pac's foot by almost 7 times.

Again, I maintained my stand that Marquez won the fight. But these things should not be overlooked. Manny fought a great fight with the guy, but his deeds on the righ were overlooked simply because 2 judges scored it awfully -- that wasnt even his fault yet he is paying for it direly.

[Gandalf]

Dench, are you out of your mind?

I cannot believe that you have put paragraphs together in order to argue that. It happens when you get an orthodox fighter and a southpaw together. They trip up quite frequently.

Now to even insinuate that it was an intentional strategy is ludicrous.

[Dench]

Dench, are you out of your mind?

I cannot believe that you have put paragraphs together in order to argue that. It happens when you get an orthodox fighter and a southpaw together. They trip up quite frequently.

Now to even insinuate that it was an intentional strategy is ludicrous.

Miles, last time I checked I still have my mind intact to where it was it was before.

I'm simply stating the facts as I answer Cutmemick's post, and I may sound like a person insinuating that marquez fought dirty, but that is simply because the facts lead me to a realization to that effect.

You are all right to suggest that southpaw and orthodox fighter frequently stepped each others foot in a fight, but I dont see them happening like always in match. Just recently, ortiz and floyd never had an instance like this in 3 rounds. And Pac vs 4 other ortho fighters had minimal cases of such too. But in marquez fight, it happened 7 times (caught on pics/tape) and "almost happened" for like 10 more times. Yet we never heard pac/roach complaining about it. Maybe they accept the fact that it was accidental.

intentional or not, that dont really matter now. Pac won the cards, but to me he lost. I just can let this get overlooked by people who thinks manny deserves nothing but hatred by winning a fight he gallantly fought.

[Addicted to Boxing]

No one is bad mouthing Pac they are speaking of the decision. You are all caught up in your nice writing ability and clouded . You just owned yourself by saying you need to defend Pac . So it is your emotion and not logic speaking. QUOTE=Dench;1026508]

Dench, are you out of your mind?

I cannot believe that you have put paragraphs together in order to argue that. It happens when you get an orthodox fighter and a southpaw together. They trip up quite frequently.

Now to even insinuate that it was an intentional strategy is ludicrous.

Miles, last time I checked I still have my mind intact to where it was it was before.

I'm simply stating the facts as I answer Cutmemick's post, and I may sound like a person insinuating that marquez fought dirty, but that is simply because the facts lead me to a realization to that effect.

You are all right to suggest that southpaw and orthodox fighter frequently stepped each others foot in a fight, but I dont see them happening like always in match. Just recently, ortiz and floyd never had an instance like this in 3 rounds. And Pac vs 4 other ortho fighters had minimal cases of such too. But in marquez fight, it happened 7 times (caught on pics/tape) and "almost happened" for like 10 more times. Yet we never heard pac/roach complaining about it. Maybe they accept the fact that it was accidental.

intentional or not, that dont really matter now. Pac won the cards, but to me he lost. I just can let this get overlooked by people who thinks manny deserves nothing but hatred by winning a fight he gallantly fought.[/QUOTE]

[Gandalf]

Absolutely astonishing. Honestly, my mind is being blown by some of the things I am hearing in the wake of this fight. So now we have to consider that Marquez wasn't accidentally getting tangled with Manny. As if Marquez is going to have the idea of stamping on Manny's feet on his mind whilst Manny is motoring in at a hundred miles an hour. He would be too busy with his mind on evading the punches and getting his own counters in.

It is more than a little bit pathetic really. At least when I had my long bitch about Barrera/Khan I had something to defend. Namely a fighter being asked to continue with his skull on display and no vision for several rounds. However, here a fighter has lost fair and square and still the blowhards are blowing smoke out of their arses. Accept it and move on. At least if you are going to have excuses have something logical or at least is in some way at least half reasonable, but this is daft.

What is going to be tomorrow? Manny was being weighed down by the weight of his beard? Manny was wearing the wrong coloured shorts? Marquez had actual dynamite in his gloves? Manny had caught the ghey?