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    Trinidad vs Margarito would have been something had they been in the same era

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    I remain unconvinced that Margarito is a halfway-decent fighter without plaster in his gloves. Certainly zero evidence of it.

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    Margarito is bitter. For the sake of an edge at the very least against Mosley, he has cast what will be a lingering (if not permanent) doubt on all his accomplishments, and he knows it. There will always be the specter of the gloves in considering at least his past victories, and he has nobody to blame except himself and/or his trainers. Was it worth it? They say sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me, but in actuality, it's damage to one's reputation that is generally more lingering. Long after he's healed from the pounding he took against Pacquiao, his reputation is still damaged from the handwraps incident.
    He may have as much to prove as Cotto. Cotto didn't strike me as at all afraid of Margarito. Just confident and classy. I thought that Cotto would be more pissed off than Margarito, but that may not be true. Ironically, despite the result of the first fight, Cotto seems to be more at peace with it than Margarito. Margarito seems to me to have almost a little kid's mentality of protesting his innocence in one matter after being caught as guilty in another. It's going to be very interesting. In the interview, I see Cotto as very focused on the job at hand, and Margarito possibly not being able to have a handle on his emotions, which may hurt him. But it may not, as his style is very wide-open, too. But I do see Margarito's mental state possibly being subject to exploitation by a smart fight like Cotto, a la Leonard-Duran II. I thought going in that Cotto will win the rematch, and the interview doesn't change my mind, but that may just be confirmation bias at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Margarito is bitter. For the sake of an edge at the very least against Mosley, he has cast what will be a lingering (if not permanent) doubt on all his accomplishments, and he knows it. There will always be the specter of the gloves in considering at least his past victories, and he has nobody to blame except himself and/or his trainers. Was it worth it? They say sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me, but in actuality, it's damage to one's reputation that is generally more lingering. Long after he's healed from the pounding he took against Pacquiao, his reputation is still damaged from the handwraps incident.
    He may have as much to prove as Cotto. Cotto didn't strike me as at all afraid of Margarito. Just confident and classy. I thought that Cotto would be more pissed off than Margarito, but that may not be true. Ironically, despite the result of the first fight, Cotto seems to be more at peace with it than Margarito. Margarito seems to me to have almost a little kid's mentality of protesting his innocence in one matter after being caught as guilty in another. It's going to be very interesting. In the interview, I see Cotto as very focused on the job at hand, and Margarito possibly not being able to have a handle on his emotions, which may hurt him. But it may not, as his style is very wide-open, too. But I do see Margarito's mental state possibly being subject to exploitation by a smart fight like Cotto, a la Leonard-Duran II. I thought going in that Cotto will win the rematch, and the interview doesn't change my mind, but that may just be confirmation bias at work.
    exactly, Cotto's always been laid back, that's just how he is, if he was scared of Margarito he wouldn't have said what he said right in Margarito's face, he called him out on his bullshit not make buddy buddy with him in person only to talk shit behind his back

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    I remain unconvinced that Margarito is a halfway-decent fighter without plaster in his gloves. Certainly zero evidence of it.
    He's still very durable

    That said, I still stand strongly behind the psychological advantage that plaster wraps gives a fighter, I think a fighter is less worried about taking a big punch and knows deep down that all he has to do is keep the pressure up and his opponent will crack because he's been hitting him with rocks.

    Look at Margarito vs Mosley and vs Pacquiao....he gives up, he'll stand and take punishment because he's a dope but once he starts getting nailed with punches he doesn't give back like he used to. It used to be if you hit Tony with a good punch he'd come back and land 4 or 5, now his output mirrors the fact that he hasn't been able to hurt Shane or Manny (both durable fighters of course) but his punch output fell drastically in those fights.

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    Default Re: Cotto/margarito faceoff full interview

    great.... looking forward to this one.

    COME ONNNNNNNN COTTO

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    If I was Cotto I'd land a few vicious low blows to send a message and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened either.

    Margarito is a punk!

    That said Margarito vs Angulo or Kirkland is very winnable for him IMO

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    Default Re: Cotto/margarito faceoff full interview

    I don't believe Antonio is totally shot, but it's safe to say he's not the same fighter he was before the Mosley & Pacquiao beatdowns. Cotto on the other hand seems to be as good if not better than he was prior to his losses to Margo in the first fight and Pacquiao, advantage Cotto.

    Margo will give it his all, and keep coming just like he did in the 1st fight with Cotto, the difference is, he won't be nearly as effective finding Cotto as he was last the time. Margo is also going to be eating big shots that hurt him, Miguel is going to want to make a statement.

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    Gonna be another barn burner. Although I see some hesitation on Cotto's part to be, well, like the cotto of old. He seems to have lost some confidence here or just wanting to project himself as being more cautious. Margarito's face will probably burst around round 5 if cotto hits him the way he did back in their first fight. I still can't see the fractures on margo's face healing completely given the way it was demolished last year. Either way, gonna be a tremendous fight. Pulling for a cotto late round tko here.

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    Margarito doesn't really seem to have anything to say about the wraps apart from I didn't know and makes it out like it was nothing, when in reality he could have killed someone. As much as I want the cheat beat I just think he has Cotto's number. Hopefully he's shot from the Pac and Mosley beatdowns and cotto punishes him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    Margarito doesn't really seem to have anything to say about the wraps apart from I didn't know and makes it out like it was nothing, when in reality he could have killed someone. As much as I want the cheat beat I just think he has Cotto's number. Hopefully he's shot from the Pac and Mosley beatdowns and cotto punishes him.
    Yeah, obviously he's still in denial stage about the wraps. No way I'm saying he didn't do it but he probably wanted to project to Cotto and to everyone else he had nothing to do with it so he makes it out like he doesn't care. Dunno if anyone bit that though. I'm still convinced he knew all along.

    Also, Cotto didn't seem supremely confident in the interview. I still think Cotto pulls a tko here though. I still think Margo or his body still hasn't recovered from the previous 2 beatings he got. 1 year, I'm not sure if that's enough to heal a completely shattered orbital bone.

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    "but he's not a normal person" nope he is the biggest douche in the universe. Also Kellerman is a bit weird I swear he spuffed at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Also Kellerman is a bit weird I swear he spuffed at the end.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he fuckn did dind't he hahahaha! I saw it too!

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    ElTerribleMorales great post and thanks for sharing it, and as always I value everybody's opinions here. From what I saw, I saw 2 hispanic dudes arguing like kids which was kinda funny and cute, I wonder what Max was thinking coz I dunno how fluent he is in understanding spanish. Going back and fourth arguing about abit of red, and a lil tear on Margarito's wraps. Most of you who said Margarito pretty much dodged the questiong and continued his argument on non relative topics are correct, I saw the same, he even resorted to childish I beat you "blah blah blah". Cotto took it like the gentleman he is and didn't continue the argument about the result of their first fight like a kid.

    Most of us have analysed their body language etc. The tell tale sign for me or what stuck out was when Cotto said "you will feel it too" looked to be sporting a lil sweat moustache (from tension, possibly some intimidation), and Margarito chuffed with amusement defiantly answering "no mas"-"never" (in English)! That to me showed supreme confidence from Margarito knowing in fite 1 he took Cotto's best punches and walked rite through them.

    I am gunning for Cotto as I was in his first fite but I think he's only real chance is to box, hope Margarito hasn't fully healed from his Pac beating and possibly load his own gloves for a bit of a sweet revenge hahaha!


    p.s Bob Arum is a real c**t isn't he, how does Margacheato get 2 title shots after being banned for cheating-this became apparent to me whan Max Kellerman tells Cotto he has a lot to lose and I remembrd he's the champ

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