Cotto/Margo II

[15rounder]

I'm interested to see this not only because of the back story of hand wraps, but I'll be watching Margarito closely. The one thing that's always kind of amazed me about Margarito is his ability to take a punch. I think the man has (or had) one of the best chins in boxing. The man has taken flush shots from Cintron (who while not an elite championship fighter, is a very hard puncher when it lands), Cotto and the like. And just kept walking through them. I know this wasn't the case with Manny, but Cotto had issues with Manny as well. I'm particularly intersted to see what happens if it gets to round 6 and Cotto has landed some solid shots...and Margarito is still standing there and backing him up. Hopefully this is an exciting one. Can't see why it wouldn't bee.

[Gandalf]

Margarito has a really fucked up face now. His left eye looks lazy and wide. It is almost like he is auditioning for a role in a Pirates of the Caribbean film. I think Margarito has a style that is all wrong for Cotto, but something about that eye makes me feel weird. It is too open whilst the other is opening and closing like normal. That eye took a pounding, so I wonder if it is really up to scratch.

As for Mars Ax, if you really have no issues with an 8-4 Manny scorecard, then you really have no respect for the sport yourself. It is the kind of card that everybody should be angry about. It isn't just that Marquez lost, but that he was seemingly adrift even going into the championship rounds. It wasn't 'by all accounts' a close fight but if it makes you feel better to think so then fair enough. Polls do suggest otherwise though.

But not to derail the thread I encourage others to concentrate on Cotto/Margarito 2. That was me taking slight umbrage with what I felt to be some unfair comments.

[erics44]

i am getting box nation for this fight along, the first one was a belter

Cotto by UD, is a cert and its probably decent odds

by the way, if i had seen pac marquez III i may have scored it 8-4 to pac too

[Mars_ax]

Margarito has a really fucked up face now. His left eye looks lazy and wide. It is almost like he is auditioning for a role in a Pirates of the Caribbean film. I think Margarito has a style that is all wrong for Cotto, but something about that eye makes me feel weird. It is too open whilst the other is opening and closing like normal. That eye took a pounding, so I wonder if it is really up to scratch.

As for Mars Ax, if you really have no issues with an 8-4 Manny scorecard, then you really have no respect for the sport yourself. It is the kind of card that everybody should be angry about. It isn't just that Marquez lost, but that he was seemingly adrift even going into the championship rounds. It wasn't 'by all accounts' a close fight but if it makes you feel better to think so then fair enough. Polls do suggest otherwise though.

But not to derail the thread I encourage others to concentrate on Cotto/Margarito 2. That was me taking slight umbrage with what I felt to be some unfair comments.

Miles, I've already said in other threads, that a 116-112 scorecard for Pacquiao seems ridiculous, whereas 115-113 and a draw (114-114) on the other 2 cards didn't seem all that outrageous. I have however, yet to see where some big "injustice" was done and/or some "robbery" occurred, so why should I be "angry"? Do I think that Pacquiao really "won" the fight? Probably not... Do I really give a flying fuck that Marquez "lost" the fight? Nope, not at all, you may not like my answer, but i'm just being honest.

[Rantcatrat]

Mars - there is no reason to get wound up over Miles. Humor me and allow me to give my deconstruction of Miles. Understand that Miles likes nothing more than a good controversy. The man thrives on it especially when the favorite gets the nod. Examples of Miles upset at scoring in fights are a plenty and too numerous to count. For example, he was angry about Marlon White and the Andrade/Bute ending. More recently, he was angry about Macklin and Sturm. What I can't recall is Miles scoring a close fight with the favorite. Similiarly, I recall he frequently berated Floyd for retiring rather than face Cotto or Margarito and facing Hatton when Cotto and Margarito were out there. He also has been outspoken against Manny for balking at the drug tests. Consequently, to be fair to Miles, he is consistent in that he is outspoken against what he perceives to be injustice in boxing regardless of the boxer (e.g. he is neither Flomo nor Pactard). In addition, like I believe myself to be most of the time, he is a constant supporter of the underdog. On another note, when it comes to boxing (b/c outside of boxing he has been known to spew the occasional anti-semitic slur) something I like about his views is that he doesn't seem to hold much ethnic bias like VD (Mexican fighters) or Erics44 (British fighters) or Brockton (Italian fighers). At the end of the day, Es Lo Que Hay.

[Mars_ax]

Mars - there is no reason to get wound up over Miles. Humor me and allow me to give my deconstruction of Miles. Understand that Miles likes nothing more than a good controversy. The man thrives on it especially when the favorite gets the nod. Examples of Miles upset at scoring in fights are a plenty and too numerous to count. For example, he was angry about Marlon White and the Andrade/Bute ending. More recently, he was angry about Macklin and Sturm. What I can't recall is Miles scoring a close fight with the favorite. Similiarly, I recall he frequently berated Floyd for retiring rather than face Cotto or Margarito and facing Hatton when Cotto and Margarito were out there. He also has been outspoken against Manny for balking at the drug tests. Consequently, to be fair to Miles, he is consistent in that he is outspoken against what he perceives to be injustice in boxing regardless of the boxer (e.g. he is neither Flomo nor Pactard). In addition, like I believe myself to be most of the time, he is a constant supporter of the underdog. On another note, when it comes to boxing (b/c outside of boxing he has been known to spew the occasional anti-semitic slur) something I like about his views is that he doesn't seem to hold much ethnic bias like VD (Mexican fighters) or Erics44 (British fighters) or Brockton (Italian fighers). At the end of the day, Es Lo Que Hay.

Trust me Rant-cat, I already know what an argumentative "cunt" miles is, so he's not winding me up in the least.
Guys like miles, however cuntlike they are, make the forum a fun place to come to, plus miles' bitching is always done respectfully...

[Gandalf]

I am who I am so you can go fuck yourself if you disagree. My fighters are all at the end and that is why it is always the underdog. It isn't really about supporting the underdog, though I thought that post was pretty well thought through. Good read.

[Rantcatrat]

I am who I am so you can go fuck yourself if you disagree. My fighters are all at the end and that is why it is always the underdog. It isn't really about supporting the underdog, though I thought that post was pretty well thought through. Good read.

Fair play. I wasn't trying to be a prick.