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WOW,you guys have a lot of time on your hands if you can look that much into it.LOL

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Watched the replay (had watched it live too), scored it rbr this time, and still thought Pac edged it, 115-113. I thought 4 rounds were complete toss-ups though (4 and 9-11), so I could see as wide as 116-112 *either way*. Calling it a "robbery" is ridiculous and does a disservice to guys like Eraslandy Lara who actually did get robbed.

Basically, the fight, though tense, was highly uneventful in terms of action. More or less nothing happened in a number of rounds. And where there was action, there was so little that you had to decide the rounds on the basis of a couple punches.

I definitely have zero interest in seeing jmm-pac IV. Even rewatching this one was not terribly enjoyable.

pac jmm
r1 10 9 v. little landed; pac lands a couple, jmm basically nothing
r2 9 10 same - 2 ok punches from jmm are the differnce
r3 10 9 nothing happens; pac steals at the end of the round
r4 9 10 total toss-up; jmm gets a couple of body shots and one upstairs vs. 2 upstairs from pac
r5 9 10 nothing for most of the round; jmm wins clearly in last 30 seconds
r6 10 9 again v. close; pac better thru first 2 min
r7 9 10 clearest round so far
r8 9 10 fairly clear
r9 10 9 total toss-up
r10 10 9 total toss-up (pac maybe steals it in the end; really a 10-10)
r11 10 9 toss-up; marquez too negative
r12 10 9 ditto - a little clearer for pac
Quite a few people say round 9 was close, but i thought that was a clear round for JMM. He clearly landed more combination's in that round, and landed the more eye catching punches especially the uppercuts.

That's a Pacquiao round

Pac
Left straight @ 2:11
combination @ 1:36
Left @1:18

They traded @ 44 and @25

JMM
combination @ 1: 56
Good right hand @ 09


Terribly close round that should go to the aggressor who landed more shots.
There was two combinations by JMM one at 1:59 and at 1:56, JMM countered Manny Pacquiao with a right hand after his combination at 1:36 with a solid right hand. A left at 1:18 ? you mean the one even the biased HBO commentator's said missed ? and i just watched it in slow motion and that left uppercut missed by a mile and then JMM counters with a combination. JMM at 00:56 catches Manny Pacquiao coming in with a right hand.

You also failed to mention two other really good moments for JMM, a left uppercut at 00:31 snaps Manny Pacquiao's head back, and at 00:13 JMM throws a 3 punch combination and lands a left uppercut once again and a right hand.

Actually it only took me 5 minutes, he's the one been over analyzing every round. Watching one round at a time every 30 minutes or so, i have no idea how anyone could watch a fight like that and enjoy it personally.

But notice how he left out JMM's best parts of the round, and claimed Manny Pacquiao landed a left hand which clearly missed by a mile.

I maybe a JMM fan but im not biased in my scoring what so ever, if i felt JMM lost this fight legitmately i would admit it. But he landed the best punches of the fight, and Manny Pacquiao looked more cautious than normal and couldn't get off, even Freddie Roach thought he was losing.