Especially for ross

[ross]

Mike had 3 stages to his career. When he wasnt under King, when he was with King and when he left prison.

When Mike wasnt under King he was the nearest any heavy has looked at unbeatable. Even though Marciano retired undefeated, he got dropped and struggled with an old light heavy, he didnt have long left.

Alot of the media weresaying that Mike is invincible and is close to taking Alis greatest crown. Its only since King spoilt him that people are completely disregarding what he did with Rooney as his trainer.

Post prison Mike was just getting paid and was being used to make money.

[Master]

This Tyson, although on the slide, was still able to beat Foreman and you guys are perpetuating a myth. Bruno and Bonecrusher were monster punchers and they only hurt him for a short while. Old George may have developed a better jab than when he was young but he was far too slow. Tyson would have beat him to the punch and have the sense to punch him at angles and not stand toe to toe with him. The punches Holyfield landed unanswered in his fight with Foreman would have resulted in a stoppage if Tyson had landed them. Prime Foreman would have been a different story but this old version who was carefully managed and manoeuvred would not last with Tyson at that time.