Did the eye save cotto?

[p4pking]

I'm not sure Miles actually watches boxing anymore, just decides he likes one fighter and not the other then tries to be clever about it after the fact.

[Gandalf]

I'm not sure Miles actually watches boxing anymore, just decides he likes one fighter and not the other then tries to be clever about it after the fact.

Though familiar with the fine art of sophistry, I am just trying to appraise how I feel here. I know that my view is an unpopular one concerning this fight, but it's just what it is.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a final fight a year down the line. It is very entertaining seeing these two square off. Much better than 90% of the fights out there.

It's that eye that makes me unable to really regard Cotto as the better fighter. He has lucked out on getting damaged flesh as part of the package. Sure, Margarito's camp were stupid for going 12 against Manny, but it puts a bit of a dampener on the whole 'which fighter is better' argument.

Sure Cotto is the popular winner and fought a great fight, but is he really 'better' than Margarito. I'm not so sure that he is.

It's just a view and people can take or leave it as they see fit. I don't really mind.

[p4pking]

I'm not sure Miles actually watches boxing anymore, just decides he likes one fighter and not the other then tries to be clever about it after the fact.

Though familiar with the fine art of sophistry, I am just trying to appraise how I feel here. I know that my view is an unpopular one concerning this fight, but it's just what it is.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a final fight a year down the line. It is very entertaining seeing these two square off. Much better than 90% of the fights out there.

It's that eye that makes me unable to really regard Cotto as the better fighter. He has lucked out on getting damaged flesh as part of the package. Sure, Margarito's camp were stupid for going 12 against Manny, but it puts a bit of a dampener on the whole 'which fighter is better' argument.

Sure Cotto is the popular winner and fought a great fight, but is he really 'better' than Margarito. I'm not so sure that he is.

It's just a view and people can take or leave it as they see fit. I don't really mind.

Hah, fair enough and didn't mean to lash out really. I think its more a case of Margarito being a very tough matchup for Cotto, Miguel can't afford to take liberties with a guy like that and if he had to box all the way through to win then good on him. Imo he is certainly a better fighter overall, as any common opponents they share would certainly indicate as well.

[blegit]

I'm not sure Miles actually watches boxing anymore, just decides he likes one fighter and not the other then tries to be clever about it after the fact.

Though familiar with the fine art of sophistry, I am just trying to appraise how I feel here. I know that my view is an unpopular one concerning this fight, but it's just what it is.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a final fight a year down the line. It is very entertaining seeing these two square off. Much better than 90% of the fights out there.

It's that eye that makes me unable to really regard Cotto as the better fighter. He has lucked out on getting damaged flesh as part of the package. Sure, Margarito's camp were stupid for going 12 against Manny, but it puts a bit of a dampener on the whole 'which fighter is better' argument.

Sure Cotto is the popular winner and fought a great fight, but is he really 'better' than Margarito. I'm not so sure that he is.

It's just a view and people can take or leave it as they see fit. I don't really mind.

I respect your opinion/stance. No problem with it since I believe you're being geniune and not just a die hard tard. But to be fair its not like Cotto is the same flesh either. Cotto has been brutally beaten twice (possibly once with plaster) and I'm sure his face marks and cuts a lot easier nowaday. Not to mention his confidence and chin probably have a few cracks in it now also.

[p4pking]

^^. Not to mention the fact that Cotto has fought both of the guys that did so much damage to Margarito, not fairing quite so badly himself, being the better fighter

[Gandalf]

Yeah, I'm not even a fan of Margarito really and probably prefer Cotto as a fighter, but I see no point in building up the whole 'Saint Cotto got his revenge upon the Evil Satan' nonsense. It's silly. It was a decent fight and Cotto outboxed his man, but clearly there were handicaps in place. And I agree that Cotto is partially damaged too, but you can't really compare broken orbitals and eye surgery with just a beat down or two. If Margarito had done to Cotto what Pac did to himself then for sure I would be more suspicious, but Cotto simply got Margarito all wrong last time out and paid the penalty.

Cotto fought better than Margarito against Mosley, but the same is questionable concerning the Pac fights and more so concerning Clottey. They are both decent fighters with good wins on their resume. In terms of styles they are a gruelling match and it is fun watching them. Just a darn shame about old 'one eyed Willie'. Not because I feel sorry for Margarito, but because the boxing fan in me wants to see the best against the best. Handicaps only detract and I think that was the case last weekend.

[ICB]

No the eye didn't save him, Miguel Cotto pitched a shut out.

[FinitoElDinamita]

The eye was the biggest factor in his victory, yes..