Re: Do you ever doubt God's existence?

[Andre]

Alright, gentlemen, I'm not going to debate whether God exists or not 'cause I know it will get nowhere. All I can say is that He either exists or not; that makes it 50-50, even. But with an even-steven chance, don't you think it's better to be on the safe side? Nuff of that...

Let's discuss something different but related.

Why is it that at the dawn of civilization, all tribes, as we call them, developed certain rituals or practices mostly religious in nature? For example, why did almost all tribes in the world develop some form of rituals like dancing & chantings? Why did most of them offer sacrifices? And as Adam and Eve had done, why did they start to cover themself and sex suddenly becomes something to be ashamed of? which is contrary to the evolutionary principle of 'let's go and multiply with abandon'?

It's a fact that when people engage in chanting-dancing rituals, which is usually their way to communicate with their Gods, their mind is brought into a sem-trance state or the alpha mode, as scientists classify them according to the brain-wave pattern. It's the same mode as when people go into deep prayer or meditation. But more intriguing is it's the same mode or state of mind when great discoveries were made, taking the classic example of how Isaac Newton discovered his gravity theory:

'...whilst he was musing in a garden it came into his thought that the power of gravity...'

So you see fellas, there is something there when people go into alpha state of mind. The early humans believed it to be the way to communicate with God. The Hindu's and the Buddhist's, and meditators like us believe it's the way to tap into the 'Universal Mind' which is a storehouse of all knowledge of this universe...

...Pak Fung asked God, 'why are hiding?
why do you not show Yourself unto mankind?'
God replied, 'I conceal Myself so that you
may learn to use the most precious gift
I gave you, the most potent instrument
to solve all you problems.'
Then, Pak Fung asked, what is this potent gift?'
God replied, 'Faith.'..

...where was I.. ah, yes...
so obviously, since the dawn of civilization, when man's eyes of knowledge was opened, so to speak, one of the first thing he did was to believe and worship God, and therefore, it is a fact that belief in God was almost intinctive in early human civilization. But the big question is why? There is a reason for everything in this world, but, even without regards to whether God exist or not, why did human beings at the dawn of civilzation worship God(s) in some form? Why was manking planted with the seed of religion from its earliest days. There must be a reason for that and that is the question...

(btw, I don't answer scoffs, I answer them with grunts privately, though. Okay, fellas keep your sense of humor and keep your cool. That first one to lose his cool loses...)

I take it that you don't accept the argument that God was invented so that some people within society could use "talking" with God as a way to elevate themselves above their peers?

Personally, I think it is hard for any being with consciousness to accept that they are here for no reason greater than a long sequence of random occurrences. That is why people look for a higher being to explain their purpose, when there really is none.

Im with that totally.

Im with the fact that the story of Jesus was changed totally for exactly the same reason too.

But if you search you will find "Jesus's"(Wasnt his name) but for the exercise The one known as Jesus relatives and even some his original followers right here on Earth right now doing exactly the same thing they were doing back then. Theres a hand full in most countrys and the hierarchy within the Catholic church still tries to get them kicked out of some areas, because they do work and heal the poor and sick for free out of their own pockets in some of the worse areas on Earth. Its confusing on every level for every person because of course some people will not be healed by their own choice, but many willing give permission and are 100% open specially kids. It is right there that the Love of God is experienced by both sides in its fullest and purest. Where else would you expect it to be?

In regards to being no higher reason for being here,then you could be allowing your self to be locked into the mental realm; That isnt bad, it is just a tool though, but at its extreme it can take over and then block other parts of you that you dont care to realize even exist; so there is one good reason for a start.

Its our point of view. Is the point at which you experience everything from. Some people form one of their own, more form them from their own relatives making and they protect it like a castle and fort and guard it to their very end: some smash their walls down and never look back; but they don't win any popularity contests.