Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

[ElTerribleMorales]

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

[Kev]

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

[ICB]

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

How is he still a future opponent ? Mayweather/Pacquiao are looking to fight eachother. And surely aren't fighting on that long, losing legitmately to Lamont Peterson was a massive blow. And IMO a well deserved win for Lamont Peterson who fought his heart out, where as Amir Khan was spoiling and running for quite a bit in the 2nd part of the fight.

[Kev]

Another well thought out and reasoned thread from Saddos own village idiot.

I could never take that title from you Bibbo, you're the forum's all time greatest.

So much for "British Intelligence". hahaha

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

How is he still a future opponent ? Mayweather/Pacquiao are looking to fight eachother. And surely aren't fighting on that long, losing legitmately to Lamont Peterson was a massive blow. And IMO a well deserved win for Lamont Peterson who fought his heart out, where as Amir Khan was spoiling and running for quite a bit in the 2nd part of the fight.

Ice he is the most exciting fighter in his division, and the biggest draw by far. He lost a fight because of two terrible point deductions and many still had him winning a close fight. Once again it was a pulsating fight, commercially he has lost nothing. HBO agreed he got jobbed, Floyd himself teeeted that the referee was fucking useless and that Amir won the fight. My guess is they will get him a high profile opponent and if he wins he will get a megafight in 2012. Just wait and see.

[armyash]

I wouldn't call the points deductions a major controversy like some people seem to think. They were questionable at best.

The ref could have issued warnings or called the fighters to break more often. He could have used a little discretion because it isn't as though Khan was flying in with his head or smashing peterson with his elbows.

BUT the ref was well within his rights to take points off, Khan was fouling (not in a serious way but rules are rules) and fighting in Washington didn't help but it could just be put down to the ref being very strict.

I have no problem with the result. Going in to the 12th I had a feeling it could go either way but that Khan would win on a split or a draw at least but when he had that point deducted he was fighting a losing battle and I would have been shocked if he had won. (taking in to account where they were fighting, fair or not).

Khan only has himself to blame he lost the fight rather than Peterson won it, but i was very impressed with Petersons heart and never taking a backward step. He deserved it.

When Khan was firing off those blistering combinations he looked amazing and looked as though he could stop Peterson but he was getting trapped far too much and taking punishment on the ropes.

I say Khan wins the rematch fairly easily providing there are no point deductions.

Bloody good fight though

[denilson200]

I wouldn't call the points deductions a major controversy like some people seem to think. They were questionable at best.

The ref could have issued warnings or called the fighters to break more often. He could have used a little discretion because it isn't as though Khan was flying in with his head or smashing peterson with his elbows.

BUT the ref was well within his rights to take points off, Khan was fouling (not in a serious way but rules are rules) and fighting in Washington didn't help but it could just be put down to the ref being very strict.

I have no problem with the result. Going in to the 12th I had a feeling it could go either way but that Khan would win on a split or a draw at least but when he had that point deducted he was fighting a losing battle and I would have been shocked if he had won. (taking in to account where they were fighting, fair or not).

Khan only has himself to blame he lost the fight rather than Peterson won it, but i was very impressed with Petersons heart and never taking a backward step. He deserved it.

When Khan was firing off those blistering combinations he looked amazing and looked as though he could stop Peterson but he was getting trapped far too much and taking punishment on the ropes.

I say Khan wins the rematch fairly easily providing there are no point deductions.

Bloody good fight though

I think this post is pretty much spot on. Khan is over-rated but he is far from a chump. People need to think

What would a 25 year old De-La Hoya have done with Peterson ?
What would a 25 year old Mayweather have done with Peterson ?

EXACTLY

They would have beaten him easily

In fact the likes of Arturo Gatti, Genero Hernadez, Diego Corrales, Oba Carr would have beaten Peterson and I consider the above C+ fighters.

Maybe I'm under-estimating Lamont and people are all sucked in by his life story, which to be fair is heart-warming.

But Khan should be dominanting and outclassing guys like Peterson, even with 2 point deductions. So on that score Khan is over-rated but he is still one of the elite fighters out there.

[ICB]

Another well thought out and reasoned thread from Saddos own village idiot.

I could never take that title from you Bibbo, you're the forum's all time greatest.

So much for "British Intelligence". hahaha

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

How is he still a future opponent ? Mayweather/Pacquiao are looking to fight eachother. And surely aren't fighting on that long, losing legitmately to Lamont Peterson was a massive blow. And IMO a well deserved win for Lamont Peterson who fought his heart out, where as Amir Khan was spoiling and running for quite a bit in the 2nd part of the fight.

Ice he is the most exciting fighter in his division, and the biggest draw by far. He lost a fight because of two terrible point deductions and many still had him winning a close fight. Once again it was a pulsating fight, commercially he has lost nothing. HBO agreed he got jobbed, Floyd himself teeeted that the referee was fucking useless and that Amir won the fight. My guess is they will get him a high profile opponent and if he wins he will get a megafight in 2012. Just wait and see.

I don't think Amir Khan got robbed at all, i thought he was beaten legitmately. And so do alot of people, it was a close fight but Amir Khan was far too negative. Especially when your fighting in someone's backyard, i don't see what all the fuss is about in all honesty.

Amir Khan was warned so many times, and got point's deducted thats it. He still has alot to prove at 140 and losing to Lamont Peterson is a major setback.

He has to rematch Peterson and fight Bradley, he also has to fight someone like Berto, Ortiz at Welterweight. Infact i think this loss is a blessing in disguise because he's out of the picture now for a Mayweather showdown, which is good news because he would be totally dominated.

Let him rebuild himself at 140 and then see what happens, but talk of fighting the likes of Mayweather was madness before the Peterson fight and its even more crazy now. Amir Khan has far too many flaws in his game.

[Fenster]

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

Deary deary me...

[:::PSL:::]

Maybe he's a little bit overrated/ overhyped, but not a chump.

Geez. i wonder what's Pac's opinion about the fight. i'm really curious.

[Kev]

I wouldn't call him a chump but I would say he's overrated in the sense that people were actually talking up him as a possible future opponent for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's a bit laughable, but he's still one of the best fighters in his weight class which is still pretty deep, although his cockyness, showboating, and arrogance annoy me, he's still a fun fighter to watch, so so what if he's not a future ATG, lets just hope that he continues to take on good opposition and put in the effort and has crowd pleasing fights, wouldn't mind him against Marquez, Rios, Guerrero, or the rematch with Peterson or Prescott at 140, or move up and face the Alexander/Maidana winner, or Berto/Ortiz II winner, or Bradley (which is said to be moving up), the guy is a prick but he's more than made up for his 1st round KO and taunting, arrogance, and pushing aside, he still put in a good effort

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He still is a possible future opponent for Mayweather and Pacquaio.

He lost a very close fight thanks to some dubious points deductions. It was still a wildly exciting fight, as is every Khan fight. He's the biggest money maker for both Floyd and Manny, outside of each other.

The chances are extremely high still that he will fight one of them next year.

They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

Deary deary me...

Fenst I think the intelligence inequality on Saddo is greater than the financial inequality in the US, ten percent of the posters have ninety percent of the brains.

Khan is still a red hot commodity and boxing matches are mostly marketing decisions. Look at Haye, loses a lopsided fight to Wlad, now Vitali wants him. Morales gets a title shot on the back of losing to Maidana.

[Nameless]

I thought he won it by a close margin but I don't think it's that much of a robbery than a mere controversy. As for his potential, he has some of the fastest hands in the business, a very good footwork and he has shown that perhaps his jaw is not as much china made than what many thought at first. However, I could see some arguments why he lost and got deducted some points, 2 points was perhaps a bit too much but in the fire of the action, I could see why the referee went this way (Even if it shouldn't have, imo).
it's a lost but somehow it will just market even better his rematch with Peterson as it will spark more interests over the whole deal. He,s far from done, either as a boxer or on a market value. Plus, he has one of the biggest boxing powerhouse behind him in Golden boy promitions. Bad decision but sure not a robbery.

[Mars_ax]

They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

Deary deary me...

Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.

[Fenster]

They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

Deary deary me...

Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.

Well it depends how he loses.

If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine

[Gandalf]

It was a cracking fight and especially for the first half. The second half got bogged down in Khan spoiling and seemingly having no idea how to coordinate what it was he should be doing. He has great handspeed, but absolutely no IQ.

[Kev]

They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

Deary deary me...

Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.

Well it depends how he loses.

If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine

Fenster you are making the same mistake I did with Mars. You are attempting to reason with him based on logic and intelligence, two qualities he neither understands or possesses.

If you want his attention throw him a peanut or wave some string at him.